Dennis Hof Refuses to Pay $1400 to Former Working Girl

[JSBach]

Slow down that address is where Krissy wanted her check sent, she said her friend would get it to her. Every day she sent Dennis emails and texts saying "my friends says check didn't come". So now what's the issue ?

Know your facts

Dennis has numerous emails from Krissy saying to send the check to her friend's apt

Dennis' staff contacted Krissy every day asking if her check arrived?  The answer was "I will call her after she gets home at 8 pm and see. "

Krissy has accused Dennis of stealing her money , when it was mailed to the address she gave to our CFO within 16 hours of the money being booked , she accused  the BunnyRanch of being unethical and that they stole her money .

We felt the need to post that envelope showing we did exactly what we were supposed to do and that she wasn't bright enough to give us an address that was deliverable

She lies, she told us she didn't live there, the check was undeliverable, if she lived there It would have been delivered .

Don't drink the cool aid these haters serve up

Think all this thru before you come to a conclusion


Dennis and his BunnyRanch brand are worth millions of dollars and Krissy libeled Dennis and the corporate brand.   Of course we are going to defend ourselves against false accusations.  You'd do the same thing.

You would come off as less of a suckup if you posted a picture of yourself literally kissing Hof's ass.

[Ewysiwg]

Krissy has accused Dennis of stealing her money , when it was mailed to the address she gave to our CFO within 16 hours of the money being booked , she accused  the BunnyRanch of being unethical and that they stole her money .

Krissy hasn't worked at the ranch since late July, and the postmark on that envelope says September 3rd. Not the return date, the actual postmark, so... Interesting that September 3 was within 16 hours of the money being booked...I'm positive there will be an elaborate explanation about the client paying with a check that took 30 days to clear because he was international, yes?

Also we were told that all working girls are paid daily at all Hof brothels.

Also, you were aware that her full real name was on this envelope; in fact you asked if the moderators would allow it here 24 hours before it was posted on Twitter. It wasn't defensive. Krissy had already printed four or five apologies. All you needed to do was retweet those apologies, and stop there. Outing working girls or anyone hurts your brand, period.


*****side note****

Guys, sorry but I don't feel this is the same as Sonja's mistake. She made a threat in anger, got feedback and changed course with apologies. This was an offense repeated by Dennis after he already had 15 tweets telling him to take it down. You guys can have your opinion that it is the same thing, and I'm not going to tell you you're wrong, but I wanted to clarify that we differ on that.

[Ewysiwg]

I hope in know way this affects the posting of more nude or semi nude pics of you!

No impact whatsoever

[sperminator]

Dennis and his BunnyRanch brand are worth millions of dollars and Krissy libeled Dennis and the corporate brand.   Of course we are going to defend ourselves against false accusations.

We? WE?! I realize you and hof bear a striking resemblance to one another, but have you actually convinced yourself that you're part of bunnyranch management now? Just because he realizes you have no shame or pride, and are therefore willing to come here and defend him in such an embarrassing fashion, doesn't mean he thinks of you as any more than an somewhat over weight, somewhat over-the-hill messenger who will do his bidding.

You can spin it any way you want. You can trash this Krissy chick all day long, all the while telling us how truly fond you are of her. It doesn't change a thing. Nobody here is going to be swayed. Quite the opposite. That he would send you here to prolong all this none sense is a classic example of me thinks thou does protest too much. 60'something years old, yet less class and maturity than your average high school freshman.

It wasn't all that long ago that you were one of hof's biggest detractors. And now it's impossible to read your words with getting douche chills. Renting pussy is one thing. But selling your soul? And to such a lowlife degenerate?

I just hope he's paying you well. You definitely do deserve to be part of his WE. But I'm pretty sure all this ends with you here trashing him in the most vicious way possible and telling us how he promised you the world before throwing you to the curb. Just make sure you get that last payoff on your way out the door.

[JSBach]

Dennis and his BunnyRanch brand are worth millions of dollars and Krissy libeled Dennis and the corporate brand.   Of course we are going to defend ourselves against false accusations.  You'd do the same thing.

I don't care how things happened or whether Krissy made up the whole story (I don't think she did) at this point. What Dennis did is far worse than anything you are accusing Krissy of doing. Dennis outed her personal information and then went on to harrass her even more by tweeting this information to her school. Krissy should be calling the cops and pressing charges against Dennis. His actions are criminal. He has been in this industry long enough to know the risks posed by crazy clients finding out who the women really are. There is no possible way he could argue that he wasn't aware that he is putting her in personal danger in addition to potentially outing her to people who didn't know she was in LPIN. The amount of negative repercussions from his actions could be tremendous.

What is pathetic is that you are actually accusing her of libel while Dennis is doing far more damage to his business than anything she said. He also has the nerve to act astonished that anyone wouldn't feel sorry for him because Krissy publicly complained about not being paid. He outed a woman's information in an industry where privacy should be sacrosanct. What he did should be spread far and wide so that women considering working for him are aware that their privacy is at risk. If people cared more about how others are treated than getting laid or making money, this would result in Dennis losing a significant number of clients and working girls. However, I'm realistic and realize that both groups will probably overlook this event and continue doing what they want.

Krissy also handled this in a mature manner. Whether she did anything wrong or not, she did apologize. It should have ended at that point, but Dennis chose to escalate it and continued to harass her. I strongly suggest he delete all relevant tweets and drop the issue entirely. He isn't the only one capable of escalating this issue.

[Quo vadis]

Like was mentioned about cosmo, I don't much care if I'm "outed" or not. No skin off my teeth, I'm reasonably open about the fact I visit the brothels. That being said, outing one of the "working girls" is completely inexcusable; and, even though there are a few ladies I would like to visit that work at some of Hof's brothels, this event really gives me pause about doing so. I may not value my privacy, but I do very much value the privacy (and safety!) of every lady that works in LPIN.

[Tapper]

SixT9er and Ewysiwg,

Your comments jogged my memory.  We've discussed Dennis outing working girls before.  Here's a thread from 2010 that details past occurences.

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,3154.0.html

So this has happened before with Hof. (Per above)
It has just happened again with Krissy.
His staff and ICs believe it is ok to do since the bossman does it.
They take and post pictures of clients without permission.
And there is no apology or admission or even any awareness of wrongdoing.
Instead we get to read more spin control BS from the PR Department.

Seems to me these things show a pattern of inappropriate behavior that will not likely improve any time soon.  Its part of the Hof culture there, and their nature to act and operate this way.

I haven't been around this hobby as long as most of you, so maybe this kind of crap is old hat to you.  But I find it disturbing and disgusting and quite a turn-off for my interest in LPIN.  Just saying.   

[knowitall]

This has not just happened the two times mentioned in this thread. It has also happened with Kimberly Love at the LRN. Dennis outed her real name on the Bunny Ranch message board after she did something that didn't please him. I believe this was about three years ago, maybe longer.

Dennis has no morals and is a sick man. He doesn't care about the girls who work for him because he believes as long as money is still coming in, he doesn't have to. If he expects ladies to sign some "contract" when they first arrive, and resign every year, then there should definitely be a confidentiality/nondisclosure agreement signed by him/staff as well. Not like that will ever happen, though Outing a working girl as a prostitute can create problems with family, friends, careers, reputation, stalkers......I wonder how he'll feel when he outs the wrong girl and she ends up missing/murdered/etc. Oh yeah, he'll probably try to bank off of it as free publicity and not give two fucks. Sick.

[Saphire Rae]

I think both sides are acting like children, and this is why you don't date at work.
I do love how Dennis is such a polorizing figure,  he could blow his nose and out of the woodworks would come a raviging herd of haters and then the defenders...... lol

[madison_graham]

Dennis and his BunnyRanch brand are worth millions of dollars and Krissy libeled Dennis and the corporate brand.   Of course we are going to defend ourselves against false accusations.

We? WE?! I realize you and hof bear a striking resemblance to one another, but have you actually convinced yourself that you're part of bunnyranch management now? Just because he realizes you have no shame or pride, and are therefore willing to come here and defend him in such an embarrassing fashion, doesn't mean he thinks of you as any more than an somewhat over weight, somewhat over-the-hill messenger who will do his bidding.

You can spin it any way you want. You can trash this Krissy chick all day long, all the while telling us how truly fond you are of her. It doesn't change a thing. Nobody here is going to be swayed. Quite the opposite. That he would send you here to prolong all this none sense is a classic example of me thinks thou does protest too much. 60'something years old, yet less class and maturity than your average high school freshman.

It wasn't all that long ago that you were one of hof's biggest detractors. And now it's impossible to read your words with getting douche chills. Renting pussy is one thing. But selling your soul? And to such a lowlife degenerate?

I just hope he's paying you well. You definitely do deserve to be part of his WE. But I'm pretty sure all this ends with you here trashing him in the most vicious way possible and telling us how he promised you the world before throwing you to the curb. Just make sure you get that last payoff on your way out the door.

Yes, I am part of the management team an have been for several months.   I work in Media Relations.

[JSBach]

I think both sides are acting like children, and this is why you don't date at work.
I do love how Dennis is such a polorizing figure,  he could blow his nose and out of the woodworks would come a raviging herd of haters and then the defenders...... lol

He outed a working girl's real name and address. He has put her in danger. This has nothing to do with haters coming out of the woodwork. I also don't think it is related to the fact they dated. As others have mentioned, he has done this to other women. He wasn't dating them.

I hope you realize that you have the option of remaining silent on these issues. When you make comments like the one above, you just sound like everyone else who defends Dennis. If you stay out of it, people can think there is a possibility that you might have some integrity. He's your boss, but you aren't obligated to defend him. Shame on you for trying to reduce a serious and dangerous situation to people being haters. That is a typical defense of every criticism of Dennis.

[Ewysiwg]

Calling people haters when they give appropriate backlash for doing something really wrong is at best oversimplifying the issue, at midpoint deflecting, and at worst showcasing an incapacity to incorporate anything but unconditional positive regard - not the hallmark of a healthy business. This is another concerning pattern for Dennis - I haven't seen other brothels respond this way when challenged.

And I'd be firing the person who told me posting a picture that outs a working girl on Twitter was the PR way to go. Then again I'm capable of hearing things I don't like about myself.

[SIDEWINDER]

I think both sides are acting like children, and this is why you don't date at work.
I do love how Dennis is such a polorizing figure,  he could blow his nose and out of the woodworks would come a raviging herd of haters and then the defenders...... lol

Haters? Must be the number one buzz word in the bunnyranch bible to deflect controversy.  All I want to know is how I rank amongst the Haters. Am I still number one or have I slipped down a few notches over the years?

[Michael]

How is any of this Fatison Graham's business?  Who died and made her owner/ceo of Team BR?  If she's so damn important, why is she not one of the focal points of team br's publicity spamming?  I think we all know the answer to that one.  Yep, to rephrase an old expression, she couldn't carry Brooke Taylor or Krissy Summers' bra strap. 

As a female, she is the flower of the family, a blooming idiot.  She should be embarrassed.  If she had any kind of authority at all, she would set women's rights back by 50-100 years easily.  All this mindless ass kissing she's done is not getting her anywhere.  When Hof gets tired of her, she will be kicked to the curb like so many flunkys before her, with her and after her and he won't give a fat rat's ass about what he's done. 

I imagine she's pissed off a bunch of her coworkers, atypical of the average brownnoser.  I hope she has seen the movie, "Full Metal Jacket" especially the bar of soap in a pillow slip scene.  Should she piss off a lot of angry women, she better hope she has the foot speed of Usain Bolt the day they decide to settle the score with her.

Back to the original issue, I hope Krissy gets through this as soon as possible and I hope for the best for her in whatever makes her happy from today to eternity.     

[Saphire Rae]

Ok maybe haters was a bad word choice,  I still think that this is a buisness and everyone is being stupid.