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Wow, just wow.

I must say, I actually do like that article. Seems like the tone with that shift manager was right on the money, glad they printed it.
Side note: a few months before LRS went up for sale I had mentioned that a portion of it had been sold. Sonja chimed in and said she believed it was a former shift manager/bartender that bought it as she had horses or something and moving would be a hardship. Would imagine that’s her in the article.she seemed to know enough about the condition (rat infested)

I honestly thought they were going to use it for something symbolic, like a hideaway for victims of sex trafficking.

So… let’s just recap. $1.35 million was paid for the place, they owned it for over 2 years, paid taxes on it, had security there like you mentioned, and then paid to have the place demolished… what do you suppose the final tab on this endeavor was? And more importantly how many victims could have been helped with all this money?

All they wanted to do is keep it closed, but at the same time one would have to wonder if someone did try to reopen it as a brothel if they would have hit a roadblock. So many things can go wrong, Wildcat was supposed to reopen earlier this year but something went wrong.

Also is that description of Cottontail accurate? I thought it simply closed when the madam retired and was left to rot, until it burned down a couple years ago. Was it also purchased for the sake of keeping it closed?

Once again, where are all these people that wanted to reopen it as a brothel? Show them this article, have them set up shop somewhere else.

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Good article. Thanks Claymore. I drove by the LRS 2 years ago. I was confronted by a local who said he was trying to prevent vandalism. He looked like a meth head. Teeth missing, very skinny, and kind of hyper.

I visited the LRS once but didn't party. It was very nice on par with SR or the CR, but that place really is in the middle of nowhere.

Wounder Hussy has a new video about Beatty NV. It may go through another boom period. How would that affect rural brothels?

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Hopefully the brothels around the state sitting vacant won't be bought up and suffer the same fate as the LRS and Cherry Patch.

Seems this "anti" group is picking on an ant and ignoring the huge anthill of illegal prostitution...

The open border has lead to a flood of illegal prostitution....around the country and I've seen it here in Nevada and have been approached by ladies at truck stops..(Venezuelan).I've seen what appears to be underage being transported or trafficked also..

Common sense would tell anyone..that a legal regulated prostitution such as Nevada's is the best option..ladies screened..STD tested..they pay taxes as well as the houses.safe place to work...plus the employment for the communities..

So you have to really wonder about the this "anti" group that bought the Crystal houses and then destroyed them....

Eliminating brothels just drives prostitution more underground..

I'll leave it at that..but much doesn't add up..if it is true advocacy against prostitution...
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Hopefully the brothels around the state sitting vacant won't be bought up and suffer the same fate as the LRS and Cherry Patch.

Seems this "anti" group is picking on an ant and ignoring the huge anthill of illegal prostitution...

The open border has lead to a flood of illegal prostitution....around the country and I've seen it here in Nevada and have been approached by ladies at truck stops..(Venezuelan).I've seen what appears to be underage being transported or trafficked also..

Common sense would tell anyone..that a legal regulated prostitution such as Nevada's is the best option..ladies screened..STD tested..they pay taxes as well as the houses.safe place to work...plus the employment for the communities..

So you have to really wonder about the this "anti" group that bought the Crystal houses and then destroyed them....

Eliminating brothels just drives prostitution more underground..

I'll leave it at that..but much doesn't add up..if it is true advocacy against prostitution...

I checked the social media of that group, wanted to see if they made any mention of this, they didn’t. I didn’t scroll down, but one of the first posts was bragging about how they’ve dolled out $6 million a year to help with their cause. $6 million… that’s not that much when you consider they blew $1.35 million to buy LRS, never mind the other things they no doubt had to spend money on for this endeavor. You always hear about these “non profits” with huge overhead and not much of the money making it to who really needs it.

Yeah them buying up all the brothels has been a worry of mine. Like I mentioned awhile back in my topic about aging brothel owners, seems like several properties may be up for sale in the next decade. Didn’t know about George Tate (Sues) when I made that post, look at him, how much longer could he have to go? Kind of hoping he’ll leave the place to his in-law/step family or whoever it was. Lance Gilman is another concern of mine. He has quite the empire (not just the Mustang), but he is up there in years. When Love Ranch was being sold Hofs successors were adamant they weren’t going to put any emphasis on the plans for that property, hoping anyone who sells a brothel in the future will put some thought into that.

I’ve long hoped for a brothel to open in Beatty. Bikinis is like a cannabis facility or something, I think Angels is just someone’s residence. Shady Lady (if that counts as Beatty) is a Bed and Breakfast.
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Well I'm glad you posted it first SMRKIA...but it was my gut feeling that possibly this advocacy group..may be more about raising funds then addressing the so-called issue they believe exists..

Most people who donate to said causes want a return on their investment...something tangible..

Demolishing a couple old buildings may have been it.....

As I have stated before prostitution is everywhere and it has never been more easier to market with tech...

Picking on a legal system such as LPIN..is goes against common sense..
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Shady Lady is about 30 miles north of Beaty. When it closed as a brothel the owner blamed the price of gas and too many illegal sex workers in Las Vegas. I am seeing posts on x from some ladies who used to work in LPIN but are now independent.

There is a very large gas station half way between LA and LV- Eddie World. The owner has just spent a lot of money to reopen the Exchange club casino in Beaty. It has a steam punk theme and looks beautiful. I'm looking forward to checking it out. He is also building some condos in Beatty.

When they get those gold mines open who knows what else could open up. Beatty is 117 miles from Las Vegas, which is not much farther than Pahrump. SR and CR could use some lower priced competition.

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There’s also an Eddieworld in Beatty. That was the original one. My only visit there was on my way to Shady Lady 10 years ago. Never seen the one in California, from what I understand it completely dwarfs the one in Beatty, but the one in Beatty was extremely busy and rather good sized.

The Eddie in Eddieworld is Ed Ringle, the business mogul of Beatty. Aside from Eddieworld, He owns all the hotels,2 casinos and many other things in Beatty, he also had big plans for an all Spanish speaking casino resort in Beatty, El Sueno, which never got off the ground but did have a rather nice looking sign constructed right on 95.

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The Eddieworld in CA is huge. Very large gas station with a giant building that has candy, food, coffee, and all kinds of toys for the kids. It is really a bazar place in the middle of nowhere in the desert.

I never noticed the name on the one in Beaty. I always stop there to get gas and go to the Death Valley Candy Company. I like to get coffee and a cinnamon roll then sit outside and watch the burros. I never noticed that it was an Eddieworld. The DV candy co is also a huge building. It's nicer than the on in CA.

Have you been to Rhyolite ghost town 6 miles west of Beatty? It's worth a visit.

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@Cactus Jack

So on that trip 10 years ago, I left Vegas, then I stopped at Stagedoor and Eddieworld for a couple hours, mainly to gather my nerves as I was so nervous. I wasn’t just a brothel Virgin, I was an actual Virgin. Very very nervous. But other than Shady Lady that’s all I did.

Eddieworld has a website and a Wikipedia entry. I’ve often wondered if the 2 locations are owned by different people. The website makes no mention of the Nevada location. I actually think the Nevada location is better known as Death Valley Nut and Candy company than Eddieworld. Something that I found funny is how they boast about being the largest gas station in California. They have 26 gas pumps. Umm, yeah. There’s a Terribles in Jean NV with 96. There’s also a chain out of Texas called Buc ees, their standard new store design has 120 pumps, and their larger stores are the size of a typical grocery store. California seems to have a low bar in that department.

But I guess this Ed Ringle is a rather flamboyant individual, I’ve actually wondered if he would be the kind of person to open a brothel. He already has a diverse portfolio of businesses.

If I ever make it back to Beatty I’d consider Rhyolite. There was just so much going through my head. I wanted to get back to my hotel in Vegas.

@Claymore
The main function of that group seems to be giving out grants to organizations that align with their interests, they seem more like a middleman. So they take in money, they have their overhead, and then they grant money to organizations that also have their own overhead. Hate to say it but this is actually pretty common in the so called “non-profit” industry. I often feel these corporate owned charities like Ronald McDonald house do more than an actual non profit.
I feel it’s better to volunteer time than money.100% of time goes to good things, with money it’s less clear.

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Been searching around, was kind of hoping to find statements or opinions on this. Normally I couldn’t care less about anything Alice Little says or does, but was hoping to see something about this on her Twitter, and then see the comments that others are making. Nothing there. Also looked at Jeremy Lemur’s Twitter, he’s always posting LPIN related news (he was the one that first posted about the buyers of LRS), but it looks like he hasn’t been active since before that article was published. I’ll have to keep an eye out to see if he says anything. Also checked Sonja’s social media. She’s active but I’m guessing she doesn’t know. If it wasn’t for this one article I think everyone would be under the impression that the place was still intact.

I know it’s a pipe dream, but I would just love for someone to see this article and say “oh, Love Ranch won’t reopen, I’m going to build a new brothel”
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The more I think about this situation...Paid $1.3 Million...pay taxes..etc for a couple years...demolishing costs $$$$..end up with a couple vacant lots in Crystal Nevada..worth maybe $20-30K each...slightly more if the water wells are still viable...How much sense does this make?
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The more I think about this situation...Paid $1.3 Million...pay taxes..etc for a couple years...demolishing costs $$$$..end up with a couple vacant lots in Crystal Nevada..worth maybe $20-30K each...slightly more if the water wells are still viable...How much sense does this make?

They got several lots with that purchase, like the vacant land across from Chicken Ranch (where Hof’s billboard is), there were a few more around Pahrump. I think it was everything Hof owned, his successors wanted nothing to do with Nye County so they packaged it up.

I know you are a local Claymore, is there any public outcry over this? It sounds like the residents of Crystal were rather supportive/protective of it. But all that stuff that could have been donated as well. I have to say I’m disappointed I never got to see the place, even if just from the outside when it wasn’t open. I had only made it to southern Nevada 1 time while it was open, but I went to Shady Lady.

So much history there, like Joe Richards and his feud with Bill Martin and the sheriff.

Do you happen to know how Crystal as a town came to be? Was it an old Mining camp? Seems like a strange place to have a couple dozen homes, miles from the major roads.
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I don't know much about the history of Crystal..small blurb on Wiki....I suspect it was there because it has groundwater which is key in the desert South West..same reason Pahrump was developed....There is mining throughout the area..some active and many old nonactive mines..Prostitution followed mining or other growth in the old west..

The residents seem to be a mix of the leave me alone types...and preppers owning bug out locations there..

Overall the brothels have wide support..but there are some anti's voices also..seemed fairly quiet this past political season..

Your correct there was various properties with the LRS sale...We'll see if they are eventually sold off..still recouping their $1.3 Million...won't happen..
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Someone started a topic on Reddit about this. They expressed concern about this group doing the same thing to the Angel’s Ladies plane/sign, which I think is a legitimate concern.

The goal was to erase the Love Ranch’s memory. But look at where it was located. Miles away from any major road in a town of probably a couple dozen people. No one would ever just happen to pass by. This is in contrast to Angel’s Ladies, on a major highway with lots of traffic passing by, with a sign still prominently advertising what it was. Much more prominent, and I’d say much more well known (I see way more on YouTube/blogs about this than Love Ranch). I guess the current owner is cool about people stopping by to check out the plane/sign, and even put a picnic table by the sign. While it may be closed, memories are being made everyday. Honestly a lot of people would probably put up a fence and no trespassing signs to keep people away.

Be interested to know what his use/future plans for the property are. Seems like he’s proud of the history. Looking at Google Maps historic street view, the place is definitely not abandoned, there’s always different cars there.

Wikipedia says that the Moores sold it to him and that they operated it as leaseholders until they retired in 2014. Wonder if he’d be open to leasing it again. Property records say it’s a guy that lives in Oregon so it’s probably not his residence, maybe a vacation property? I guess it’s a nice property, like a desert oasis with a spring. Even if it won’t reopen as a brothel I’d like to see it preserved. Might be a nice place for a spa. I feel that Angels has way more history than Love Ranch, even if it was a much smaller operation. Though Love Ranch did have a much more notorious reputation with Odom and Dennis, and of course Joe Richards antics.

I’m still rather disappointed about never getting to see the Love Ranch (open or closed), honestly my only trip to Vegas before 2020 was in 2013, a lot on my list I wanted to do. I have no regrets about choosing to visit Shady Lady, but if I had known what was going to happen in the next 5 years I would have at least stopped by both Angels and Love Ranch. Feel like I missed out.