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RachelVarga

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Re: Accusations and Apologies
« Reply #345 on: July 05, 2016, 05:11:17 PM »
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I love how Dennis always tries to change a thread that is not in his favor by telling someone to come out and party with him and the girls but never answers any hard questions. It's funny because he can't see how transparent he is to everyone here. Well except for a few people.

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Re: Accusations and Apologies
« Reply #346 on: July 06, 2016, 12:16:17 PM »
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People are passing judgement on Felony. She isn't going to come here because she will get fired. Maybe it was late but there were people who saw it and can verify one way or the other what happened but they don't want to piss off Dennis.

Freaky admits that he could have touched her but he doesn't know for sure. So he cannot even be a witness for himself.

It's well known that some people can be mean or have episodes and Freeky was throwing up that night so we know he was mean to her. He admitted that himself.

I don't care about all the extra variables about what state of mind he was in. People have kids that actually do kill themselves and people are told everyday that they have cancer and will die in a few weeks. These people don't all get smash drunk and get stupid shit like this. The law does not say you can't hurt someone else unless you had a bad day.

So here is what we have. We are not certain of what he did and neither is he. Therefore just saying how much of a stand up guy he is because he came out and said something happened is wrong. A lot of girls pressured him to do this. We made him do it! So stop all that fucking oh poor freeky bullshit and don't attack Felony. I know personally what was said to her by Dennis and Suzette. I am not to get her fired. All I can say is that it was disgusting and dispicable.

If Freeky does self impose a ban then that shows a step in the right direction. If he limits his alcohol consumption that is a step in the right direction for his life too. Freaky is not a bad person. I have always liked him and still do but irregardless he fucked up to some degree that night and this forum beating is deserved. You don't have to tar and feather him but stop babying him. He will be fine.






Here's an idea: how about all of the people speculating what happened get their facts straight before they go on a public forum and completely blow everything out of proportion?  It is baffling to me that so many people are talking about this when there were only TWO people who saw what happened (aside from those directly involved: Freaky, Jenny, and Felony) and those two people were myself, Ashley, and my bartender.

I saw this with my own eyes.  I was there.  Unlike so many others who are relying on hearsay alone...and as an added bonus, I was sober for the evolution!

Felony was not choked.  There was nothing anywhere near being choked.  And she most definitely never passed out.  I don't even know how anyone possibly came up with that one.

It's quite simple actually, Felony was very intoxicated, as was Freaky.  Felony had been grabbing Freaky and Jenny for multiple hours in very sexual ways.  I get it, a lot of people get like that when they drink, whatevs.  However, Felony was told to leave Freaky and Jenny alone MULTIPLE times by me and also by Kelli, my bartender.  Not to mention the countless times Freaky and Jenny had tried to cease her advances.  She wasn't having it.  They would move from the parlor to the bar and she would follow.  Freaky had reached his limit of being grabbed and/or touched and turned around and put ONE HAND on her collar bone/lower shoulder area and said kind of loudly (but not yelling), "Felony, stop."   And that was it.  There was no choking.  There was no passing out.  There was no "assault". 

And don't get me wrong, I like Felony.  We get along great and I am in no way being disrespectful to her.  However, alcohol tends to make people do dumb things. 

As far as the aftermath, Felony immediately got up and left the bar and went to her room.  When I went to talk to her she said some expletives and slammed her door in my face.  Again, no disrespect to Felony.  I get it.  Alcohol.  What I don't get is how this has gotten blown so out of proportion that Freaky's name is being dragged through mud, so to speak, and some people are under the impression that shift managers just let men assault women at the bar. 

It's quite the contrary actually.  I have zero tolerance for men (or women) disrespecting anyone on my shift.  I am quick to cut people off and even quicker to kick people out if they can't control themselves.  I've been spit on...in the face...while getting an unruly customer outside the gate who was making the girls uncomfortable.  I've been threatened with numerous things while asking people to leave and/or physically escorting them to the door.  I have no problem standing up for myself against anyone in order to keep the house safe.

That being said, had Freaky actually "choked out" Felony, I would have promptly gotten him off of her and called the cops.  I did neither of those though.  Because no one got choked.  Or assaulted.  And no one passed out.  End of story. 




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Re: Accusations and Apologies
« Reply #347 on: July 06, 2016, 12:59:42 PM »
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I have nothing but good things to say about Freeky Geek. He is always helpful to us girls and is generous with his time with us. I wish all guys could be like him! I have never seen him even hurt a fly. We like him so much at the Love Ranch North!

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Re: Accusations and Apologies
« Reply #348 on: July 06, 2016, 01:22:48 PM »
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I like Freaky a lot and consider him a  friend. Hell, we've partied.  I think if anything this makes for a stronger argument in regards to limiting alcohol consumption and bartenders keeping close tabs. And for Ladies to have drink limits. We all have our own difference tolerance levels that vary greatly, but some aren't aware of their tolerance or choose to ignore it.  For safety and better preventing incidences such policies in place would be wise.  As it is I'm personally against drinking when on shift as a working lady in a brothel because I want to be 100% clear in the head during negotiations and the party itself.  A little champagne during the party is fine, especially a longer one.  But I don't want to do anything I might regret or anyone else deciding on doing something they might regret. Hence why another personal policy of mine is to not take noticeably intoxicated clients. I may look good enough to party with when they're smashed but if they sober up and saw I was the one they partied with and they regretted it I'd feel incredibly bad. But I have a strong conscience like that.  I'm fortunate that I have people seek me out for appointments and such and are more than willing to pay fair money for our parties without alcohol or any other substances involved whatsoever and a lot less pressure overall. Again, people at LRS noted I've avoided the bar a lot - it's because I have my reasons and I mean no disrespect by them. As an Independent Contractor I can make these choices.  But an overall limit for Ladies on shift with alcohol and a closer eye kept on patrons drinking wouldn't hurt.  Alcohol may be legal, but it can be just as harmful as any other substance and should have a more limited place in a professional setting. Just my 2 cents. Take it or leave it.


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Re: Accusations and Apologies
« Reply #349 on: July 06, 2016, 01:33:04 PM »
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People are passing judgement on Felony. She isn't going to come here because she will get fired. Maybe it was late but there were people who saw it and can verify one way or the other what happened but they don't want to piss off Dennis.

Freaky admits that he could have touched her but he doesn't know for sure. So he cannot even be a witness for himself.

It's well known that some people can be mean or have episodes and Freeky was throwing up that night so we know he was mean to her. He admitted that himself.

I don't care about all the extra variables about what state of mind he was in. People have kids that actually do kill themselves and people are told everyday that they have cancer and will die in a few weeks. These people don't all get smash drunk and get stupid shit like this. The law does not say you can't hurt someone else unless you had a bad day.

So here is what we have. We are not certain of what he did and neither is he. Therefore just saying how much of a stand up guy he is because he came out and said something happened is wrong. A lot of girls pressured him to do this. We made him do it! So stop all that fucking oh poor freeky bullshit and don't attack Felony. I know personally what was said to her by Dennis and Suzette. I am not to get her fired. All I can say is that it was disgusting and dispicable.

If Freeky does self impose a ban then that shows a step in the right direction. If he limits his alcohol consumption that is a step in the right direction for his life too. Freaky is not a bad person. I have always liked him and still do but irregardless he fucked up to some degree that night and this forum beating is deserved. You don't have to tar and feather him but stop babying him. He will be fine.






Here's an idea: how about all of the people speculating what happened get their facts straight before they go on a public forum and completely blow everything out of proportion?  It is baffling to me that so many people are talking about this when there were only TWO people who saw what happened (aside from those directly involved: Freaky, Jenny, and Felony) and those two people were myself, Ashley, and my bartender.

I saw this with my own eyes.  I was there.  Unlike so many others who are relying on hearsay alone...and as an added bonus, I was sober for the evolution!

Felony was not choked.  There was nothing anywhere near being choked.  And she most definitely never passed out.  I don't even know how anyone possibly came up with that one.

It's quite simple actually, Felony was very intoxicated, as was Freaky.  Felony had been grabbing Freaky and Jenny for multiple hours in very sexual ways.  I get it, a lot of people get like that when they drink, whatevs.  However, Felony was told to leave Freaky and Jenny alone MULTIPLE times by me and also by Kelli, my bartender.  Not to mention the countless times Freaky and Jenny had tried to cease her advances.  She wasn't having it.  They would move from the parlor to the bar and she would follow.  Freaky had reached his limit of being grabbed and/or touched and turned around and put ONE HAND on her collar bone/lower shoulder area and said kind of loudly (but not yelling), "Felony, stop."   And that was it.  There was no choking.  There was no passing out.  There was no "assault". 

And don't get me wrong, I like Felony.  We get along great and I am in no way being disrespectful to her.  However, alcohol tends to make people do dumb things. 

As far as the aftermath, Felony immediately got up and left the bar and went to her room.  When I went to talk to her she said some expletives and slammed her door in my face.  Again, no disrespect to Felony.  I get it.  Alcohol.  What I don't get is how this has gotten blown so out of proportion that Freaky's name is being dragged through mud, so to speak, and some people are under the impression that shift managers just let men assault women at the bar. 

It's quite the contrary actually.  I have zero tolerance for men (or women) disrespecting anyone on my shift.  I am quick to cut people off and even quicker to kick people out if they can't control themselves.  I've been spit on...in the face...while getting an unruly customer outside the gate who was making the girls uncomfortable.  I've been threatened with numerous things while asking people to leave and/or physically escorting them to the door.  I have no problem standing up for myself against anyone in order to keep the house safe.

That being said, had Freaky actually "choked out" Felony, I would have promptly gotten him off of her and called the cops.  I did neither of those though.  Because no one got choked.  Or assaulted.  And no one passed out.  End of story. 





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Re: Accusations and Apologies
« Reply #350 on: July 06, 2016, 01:43:54 PM »
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Here's an idea: how about all of the people speculating what happened get their facts straight before they go on a public forum and completely blow everything out of proportion?  It is baffling to me that so many people are talking about this when there were only TWO people who saw what happened (aside from those directly involved: Freaky, Jenny, and Felony) and those two people were myself, Ashley, and my bartender.

I saw this with my own eyes.  I was there.  Unlike so many others who are relying on hearsay alone...and as an added bonus, I was sober for the evolution!

Felony was not choked.  There was nothing anywhere near being choked.  And she most definitely never passed out.  I don't even know how anyone possibly came up with that one.

It's quite simple actually, Felony was very intoxicated, as was Freaky.  Felony had been grabbing Freaky and Jenny for multiple hours in very sexual ways.  I get it, a lot of people get like that when they drink, whatevs.  However, Felony was told to leave Freaky and Jenny alone MULTIPLE times by me and also by Kelli, my bartender.  Not to mention the countless times Freaky and Jenny had tried to cease her advances.  She wasn't having it.  They would move from the parlor to the bar and she would follow.  Freaky had reached his limit of being grabbed and/or touched and turned around and put ONE HAND on her collar bone/lower shoulder area and said kind of loudly (but not yelling), "Felony, stop."   And that was it.  There was no choking.  There was no passing out.  There was no "assault". 

And don't get me wrong, I like Felony.  We get along great and I am in no way being disrespectful to her.  However, alcohol tends to make people do dumb things. 

As far as the aftermath, Felony immediately got up and left the bar and went to her room.  When I went to talk to her she said some expletives and slammed her door in my face.  Again, no disrespect to Felony.  I get it.  Alcohol.  What I don't get is how this has gotten blown so out of proportion that Freaky's name is being dragged through mud, so to speak, and some people are under the impression that shift managers just let men assault women at the bar. 

It's quite the contrary actually.  I have zero tolerance for men (or women) disrespecting anyone on my shift.  I am quick to cut people off and even quicker to kick people out if they can't control themselves.  I've been spit on...in the face...while getting an unruly customer outside the gate who was making the girls uncomfortable.  I've been threatened with numerous things while asking people to leave and/or physically escorting them to the door.  I have no problem standing up for myself against anyone in order to keep the house safe.

That being said, had Freaky actually "choked out" Felony, I would have promptly gotten him off of her and called the cops.  I did neither of those though.  Because no one got choked.  Or assaulted.  And no one passed out.  End of story.

Finally a third party view of the event.  I was considering locking this thread because it had gotten so far off track.  I think no we all have a better idea of what happened.

RachelVarga

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Re: Accusations and Apologies
« Reply #351 on: July 06, 2016, 01:44:10 PM »
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Dennis Force is out in full mode.

RachelVarga

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Re: Accusations and Apologies
« Reply #352 on: July 06, 2016, 01:45:59 PM »
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No you don't. Anyone can say they saw something. Hopefully I can get Felony to tell her side but it's hard when shit it held over her head.

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Re: Accusations and Apologies
« Reply #353 on: July 06, 2016, 01:47:54 PM »
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No you don't. Anyone can say they saw something. Hopefully I can get Felony to tell her side but it's hard when shit it held over her head.

Why dot you tell us what is held over her head?

No he said she said what do you know first hand?

RachelVarga

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Re: Accusations and Apologies
« Reply #354 on: July 06, 2016, 01:54:43 PM »
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I think from Felony is as close as I can get. Not much else I can add really so bring all your Hoffettes over and do your thing "daddy" it doesn't change anything or the other things in my email.

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Re: Accusations and Apologies
« Reply #355 on: July 06, 2016, 01:59:21 PM »
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I think from Felony is as close as I can get. Not much else I can add really so bring all your Hoffettes over and do your thing "daddy" it doesn't change anything or the other things in my email.

So what are you saying ?  You made a remark that we are holding something over her head what is it?  Now don't lie what is it ?  Knowing I will ask here the second you post it

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Re: Accusations and Apologies
« Reply #356 on: July 06, 2016, 02:03:09 PM »
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What did you see, Rachel?  Could you see the bar from your room?
Anyone who knows me knows I spend more time butting heads with Dennis than anything because we don't always (ok, never) see eye to eye so there's no need for your "Dennis Force" here.  It was appropriately named "I watched it with my own eyeballs force." 😬😬

RachelVarga

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Re: Accusations and Apologies
« Reply #357 on: July 06, 2016, 02:08:25 PM »
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Dennis you know damn well if I say it and verify it to you then you will go after her. You are trying to goad me into saying so you will know if I know or not. I'm not stupid. So give it up.

Nothing you do will change the opinion of people outside of Hofville. You are wasting your time. I can do this until one of us dies and at 71 I figure that you are going way before me.

Here is the part where he calls me a liar. This is what he does. He devalues your position by attacking your reputation instead of actually presenting a case. He knows that I can't say so he will use that to say I'm lying.

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Re: Accusations and Apologies
« Reply #358 on: July 06, 2016, 02:12:53 PM »
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that's it.  This thread and the original subject has run its course.