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Title: What should every newbie know?
Post by: charlesd1976 on July 14, 2012, 05:17:47 PM
What should every newbie know?

I'm a newbie, looking for information.  What are some of the things I should know?  You could be especially helpful by linking threads.

Solid facts belong in a FAQ, but there are lots of subjects which are matters of opinion, and thread commentary helps to form your own opinon.  Pro/con about fixed price brothels?  I'd like to hear different opionions.

So I've assembled some threads I've found useful as a newbie that I feel should be informative for all newbies.  Please add a link to an especially good thread you've found.  My hope is that the moderators take all of these threads, organize them, and create a sticky post for newbies (without commentary about the threads in question).

So here are the threads.  And I'd like to see more negotiation threads, because I still don't think I know enough.

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Board supplied info:
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General FAQ:  http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,4529.msg44585.html#msg44585

Directions:  http://www.sex-in-nevada.com/directions/

Pricing Surveys:  http://www.sex-in-nevada.com/Bashful/SURVEYS/index.html
Pricing Survey Thread:  http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,5937.0.html

Ladies Reviews:  http://www.sex-in-nevada.net/lpin/reviews/


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What to expect:
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Dex's Newbie Guide:
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,4528.msg44639.html#msg44639

AlPesto's First-Timers Guide:
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,4534.msg44706.html#msg44706

First questions:
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,7564.0.html

Kinds of parties:
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,6795.0.html

Appointments:
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,960.0.html
Appointments and Deposits:
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,3834.0.html

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Pricing:
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Pricing Discussion:
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,7015.msg72336.html#msg72336
Fixed Price Vs. Negotiations:
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,6025.0.html

How to negotiate:
N. 101:
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,6189.msg62305.html#msg62305

Negotiation Poll:
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,631.0.html

Helping Newbies - The most important thing to remember
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,7798.msg80922.html#msg80922

Helping Newbies - How she'll get you to empty your wallet
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,6700.msg68781.html#msg68781

Do they prey on naive customers?
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,7827.msg81359.html#msg81359

Newbie Redcat's Negotiation Question Thread
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,7890.msg82186.html#msg82186


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Brothel newbie - from the other side
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,5852.msg58648.html#msg58648
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: charlesd1976 on July 14, 2012, 05:23:21 PM
Forgot two:

Do pricing surveys help you negotiate:
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,3712.msg36378.html#msg36378

Another plain negotiation thread:
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,510.0.html
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: charlesd1976 on July 14, 2012, 05:24:04 PM
Someday I'll make my first trip to a brothel and actually put this information to use!
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Shaka Da Kine on July 14, 2012, 10:27:03 PM
Nicely Done charlesd1976!

Love it!
I wish this post was here 2 months ago.
More importantly, I wish I would have appreciated the advice more....AND USED IT!!!!   :-[
"Knowledge is Power"
and
"Know BEFORE you Go"

Have fun dude!
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: charlesd1976 on July 15, 2012, 12:59:51 AM
More good threads filled with information:

A thread from a virgin first timer: http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,6838.msg70385.html#msg70385

The differences between northern and southern nevada brothels:
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,6135.msg61455.html#msg61455

A discussion about rates:
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php/topic,5830.msg58322.html#msg58322
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: ancient mariner on July 15, 2012, 06:00:02 AM
Insure that the head on top of your shoulders is the one making the decisions.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Little Fat Man on July 16, 2012, 06:20:35 PM
Thank you very much.   I wish this was compiled together in one segment about six months ago.  I searched through the forum trying to look at helpful information.  Basically I was trying to sort through just random talk threads in this section.  I got enough information from browsing here and there; to eventually make a trip out to Sheri’s Ranch in Pahrump, Nevada a few months ago.  I see there are a few links that I didn’t know about which I will be reading soon.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: m.ybarra55 on July 16, 2012, 07:06:01 PM
in my 1st year of going to a Nevada Brothel in 2006, I was very Naive ,didnt know much & my biggest Mistake was not Negotating & saying "ok"  to whatever the lady quoted me by putting it all on Credit. My best advice for a Newbie is to Negotiate to a Price you can Afford.I dont use plastic AnyMore @ Brothels , I pay cash,that way I Cant Overspend.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: orblivion on July 16, 2012, 08:24:30 PM
in my 1st year of going to a Nevada Brothel in 2006, I was very Naive ,didnt know much & my biggest Mistake was not Negotating & saying "ok"  to whatever the lady quoted me by putting it all on Credit. My best advice for a Newbie is to Negotiate to a Price you can Afford.I dont use plastic AnyMore @ Brothels , I pay cash,that way I Cant Overspend.

Well said.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: jimilynn on July 17, 2012, 06:13:28 AM
thank you charles, this is useful.  Hopefully you can use this to help you out in the future. Just remember that the art of negotiation is all about friendliness and kindliness and how you treat the lady in most cases. Remember prices reflect on attitude :)
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: time_twist on August 31, 2012, 04:10:14 PM
thank you charles, this is useful.  Hopefully you can use this to help you out in the future. Just remember that the art of negotiation is all about friendliness and kindliness and how you treat the lady in most cases. Remember prices reflect on attitude :)
Well said Jimi.  Negotiations involve two people, both of whom have to be realistic.  Unfortunately, some of the ladies don't seem to understand this.  Thankfully, you are one of the easier ladies to negotiate with, and many of the ladies at the ranches can learn a lot from observing how ladies like yourself negotiate.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Crumb on September 23, 2012, 10:56:18 PM
i just wanted to throw out a big thanks to all the posters on this board
the discussions and links provided in this thread have been very informative for this newb
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: weskers on September 29, 2012, 01:21:18 AM


       >Every newbie should know himself or herself<
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: AngelinaSparks on October 12, 2012, 04:04:59 AM
This is great information, Even though I work at the bunnyranch there is so much I am still learning, information wise :D
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Robert762378 on February 24, 2013, 02:03:46 PM
I was a newbie last Saturday. I went to Sheri's and the 1st price I heard was $35,000! this was for an 8 hour GFE but Heck NO! So, eventually, when we got to the $800 for 45-50 minutes it sounded good in contrast to the shocker number. I had 2 "parties" there that day. I learned a lot from, and had a good time with, Mystique. I can't think of much nice to say about the other young lady other than she was very beautiful and she knows it. "Plastic" comes to mind.
My experience leads me to advise other poor newbies to start in Scotty's Junction and head south, you'll be out of money before getting to Pahrump but you'll have had a lot of really good experiences with a lot of beautiful & kind lovers. Even though my Shady Lady times (two 2hr on 2 days) were great with Sadie (she's so sweet) and Miami at Bikini's was so warm and sexy and open and and and...I am now an Alien Cathouse Devotee (I've been abducted!!).
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: EastcoastEnglishman on May 13, 2013, 10:33:13 PM
Fellow Newbies,

I had 6 parties over 12 hours in one day at SR for under $10,000. I had 15 parties altogether which covered SR, CR, LRS and ACH in 4 days, with multiple 3sums.

I spent more time researching the girls at SR then any other brothel, so I knew what to expect and was able to get so many good deals because I was prepared, just like you should be prepared at a job interview. No girl tried to high ball me. Nor could they.

Apart from being a good negotiator, I made sure I was clean, presentable and brought small gifts for all the ladies including a box of chocolates for each house. In some cases, negotiate online and be generous to them. A small gift card breaks the ice and will get you a very good deal.

I also, can't stress enough, research your ladies before you meet them. Communicate with as many Mongers as possible and find out who their favorites. Read the field reports. They are usually very helpful and you will get the best deals at the smaller ranches.

I am generating a list of top  courtesans so this will make life easier for you. Don't hesitate to PM me.
ECE
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: EastcoastEnglishman on June 16, 2013, 05:49:10 PM
As you know there are a lot of contentious Mongers on this board, but I thought it would be helpful to highlight three Mongers who I consider to be the best of the best. This listed is excerpted from my forthcoming article on LPIN.

There Mongers have;

-had over 400 parties between them in all corners of Nevada. They travel the length and breadth of Nevada to party.
-know the inner workings of the business
-know what the cost of a reasonable priced party should be and will give you insider tips if you PM them

You will also  learn from them who the best girls are for Newbies and will even act in some cases act as referrals.

Hiking Guy –over 300 parties and the most helpful Monger on the board (all my best deals, insider tips, came through him). He also gathers and compiles the pricing surveys on all the various brothels. The term “Hiking Guy Approved” by a lady means that you have been highly recommended, so don’t pass him up. Make every effort to connect with him. Hiking Guy is often away for long periods, but will get back to you once a week or so.

QTO –always polite nice, and full of useful information. He has over 100 parties to his name and a great sense of humor. Most working girls consider him super cute and he will always argue your case.

Interested Bystander -where and how to find useful information on this board.

Lastly though technically not a party Monger -you can't go wrong with Lady Aries.
 
Lady Aries –the most informed working girl you could find anywhere. I can’t remember a better lady to get information about LPIN.  Lady Aries has a very interesting past, which I won’t go into. We spent some time communicating together before my party with her. We also chatted by phone and via email many times. Lady Aries is sharp witted, and can have a sharp tongue too, but she is just one the softest cuddliest tattooed ladies you will ever meet and knows know how to give you the best out of this world sex party. Everything was planned for me by Lady Aries at ACH.









Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: karmaluv on July 10, 2013, 03:11:12 PM
thank you charles, this is useful.  Hopefully you can use this to help you out in the future. Just remember that the art of negotiation is all about friendliness and kindliness and how you treat the lady in most cases. Remember prices reflect on attitude :)

Couldn't have said it better, Jimi Lynn! It's totally true. I have walk away from what people would consider a large party just because the vibe was wrong and I didn't think their attitude would mesh well with mine. And I get along with almost anybody and give everyone the benefit of the doubt!
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: EastcoastEnglishman on July 21, 2013, 08:17:38 PM
As you know there are a lot of contentious Mongers on this board, but I thought it would be helpful to highlight three Mongers who I consider to be the best of the best. This listed is excerpted from my forthcoming article on LPIN.

There Mongers have;

-had over 400 parties between them in all corners of Nevada. They travel the length and breadth of Nevada to party.
-know the inner workings of the business
-know what the cost of a reasonable priced party should be and will give you insider tips if you PM them

You will also  learn from them who the best girls are for Newbies and will even act in some cases act as referrals.

Hiking Guy –over 300 parties and the most helpful Monger on the board (all my best deals, insider tips, came through him). He also gathers and compiles the pricing surveys on all the various brothels. The term “Hiking Guy Approved” by a lady means that you have been highly recommended, so don’t pass him up. Make every effort to connect with him. Hiking Guy is often away for long periods, but will get back to you once a week or so.

QTO –always polite nice, and full of useful information. He has over 100 parties to his name and a great sense of humor. Most working girls consider him super cute and he will always argue your case.

Interested Bystander -where and how to find useful information on this board.

Lastly though technically not a party Monger -you can't go wrong with Lady Aries.
 
Lady Aries –the most informed working girl you could find anywhere. I can’t remember a better lady to get information about LPIN.  Lady Aries has a very interesting past, which I won’t go into. We spent some time communicating together before my party with her. We also chatted by phone and via email many times. Lady Aries is sharp witted, and can have a sharp tongue too, but she is just one the softest cuddliest tattooed ladies you will ever meet and knows know how to give you the best out of this world sex party. Everything was planned for me by Lady Aries at ACH.

Speed Racer
On and if you love to drive Speed Racer is your Brothel map guru and a class act.
See his link
http://www.sex-in-nevada.com/directions/
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Angelina Monroe on July 26, 2013, 09:00:16 AM
Wow awesome ,thank you charles, this is very interesting post and useful xo  :) :-*

Angelina Monroe @ Famous Moonlite Bunny Ranch
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: wax on May 05, 2014, 08:32:12 PM
ok simplest of simple question here from the simplest of simple newbie.
Making first trip to Reno area and will be visiting LRN and Bunnyranch, maybe Mustang as well.  Assumption is that when you negotiate a price for whatever that is the final price, house takes their cut out of that total.  Correct or incorrect?
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: QTo on May 05, 2014, 08:37:30 PM
ok simplest of simple question here from the simplest of simple newbie.
Making first trip to Reno area and will be visiting LRN and Bunnyranch, maybe Mustang as well.  Assumption is that when you negotiate a price for whatever that is the final price, house takes their cut out of that total.  Correct or incorrect?

Yes, say you negotiate for $2000, the house gets half ($1000) and the lady gets half ($1000). The house has operating expenses to cover, the excess is "corporate profit", the lady has to pay for room and board, beauty upkeep, misc expenses (like condoms lube), the excess is their "take-home" income. (If you arrive by taxi (Mustang in particular), your money gets split 3 ways, not sure the exact split to the taxi, but it's approx. 30% ($600), then the house ($700) and lady ($700) split the rest. - BR/LRN their transport is fixed rate, so it's still a 50/50 split but you may be paying an additional amount (~$100???) to cover transport)

Hope the above helps.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: wax on May 05, 2014, 09:29:38 PM
thanks - appreciate the feedback.  Hoping I don't succumb to too many $2000/hr parties - I will be done quick!
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: EastcoastEnglishman on May 19, 2014, 04:58:18 PM
thanks - appreciate the feedback.  Hoping I don't succumb to too many $2000/hr parties - I will be done quick!


Wax, oh, don't forget if you go by house transportation to either Sheri's or Chicken Ranch there is an extra cut of about 30% taking off the ladies party package. So that will also figure into the negotiations and could up the price.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: EastcoastEnglishman on May 19, 2014, 05:07:30 PM
thanks - appreciate the feedback.  Hoping I don't succumb to too many $2000/hr parties - I will be done quick!


Wax, oh, don't forget if you go by house transportation to either Sheri's or Chicken Ranch there is an extra cut of about 30% taking off the ladies party package. So that will also figure into the negotiations and could up the price.

Regarding BR and LRN, slight correction. If you stay in Carson City, and stay in one of the hotels, the price is $20.00 one way and does not figure into the party package. Often it is regarded as a tip to the driver. The local taxi service will charge you $25.00 and up!!!
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: SirJewell on February 11, 2015, 10:03:08 PM
Newbie here.  Thanks for accepting me and all the great information!

Jewell
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: COH on March 04, 2015, 05:21:26 PM
During negotiations with a lady BE AWARE when a lady won't negotiate from her outrageous initial price quote, and says anything similar to this remark.  "I have to work less and not have as many parties, and that is why I charge the prices I ask".  This comment is a business tactic practiced by specific ladies in LPIN.  When this happens don't agree to the lady's outrageous price quote.  Furthermore, don't settle for the same rate at less time allowed.  If the lady still won't negotiate then WALK.  This lady's remark is a problem with the current LPIN system.  These specific ladies attempt to catch naive or desperate potential clients into spending large sums of $ on them.  Fortunately, there's many ladies in LPIN who don't practice this business strategy.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Arrngrim on April 02, 2015, 04:34:44 AM
Also newbie here on both the boards and to the brothel world.  Thank you for all of the great information on this website, I completely forget how I stumbled across this website, but I've learned a lot more here than I did going straight to the infamous Bunny Ranch website.  Not slamming the ladies working there or anything, it's just I learned more here.   8)  Thanks to this great info and community, I'm planning my first (of I hope many in my life) trips.

Again, thanks guys and gals!
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: pitasandwichpimp on May 15, 2015, 12:35:35 PM
Some more advice.

If you do find a girl that you like and start corresponding with her, don't get all butt hurt if you don't hear from her right away. Maybe she gives you her cell #, maybe it's an email or PM on a message board like this. You want to keep in touch,  great! Just, don't get mad and sent her an angry message because it's been a day or two and you haven't heard from her.

Some of these girls only do answer their messages once every couple or few days. Like work, because it is. They could be extra busy or maybe it's their days off. If you gave her your business, chances are she want to keep your business and not ignore you. She'll most likely answer your message when she answers all the others she has in her inbox and then you'll be happy again. Just don't become that "needy" client they all talk about and dread.

What if she cancels an appointment right before it is about to occur.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Rickwild1 on May 15, 2015, 01:57:46 PM
Some more advice.

If you do find a girl that you like and start corresponding with her, don't get all butt hurt if you don't hear from her right away. Maybe she gives you her cell #, maybe it's an email or PM on a message board like this. You want to keep in touch,  great! Just, don't get mad and sent her an angry message because it's been a day or two and you haven't heard from her.

Some of these girls only do answer their messages once every couple or few days. Like work, because it is. They could be extra busy or maybe it's their days off. If you gave her your business, chances are she want to keep your business and not ignore you. She'll most likely answer your message when she answers all the others she has in her inbox and then you'll be happy again. Just don't become that "needy" client they all talk about and dread.

What if she cancels an appointment right before it is about to occur.

Shit happens. Don't take it personally.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: QTo on May 15, 2015, 09:04:07 PM
Some more advice.

If you do find a girl that you like and start corresponding with her, don't get all butt hurt if you don't hear from her right away. Maybe she gives you her cell #, maybe it's an email or PM on a message board like this. You want to keep in touch,  great! Just, don't get mad and sent her an angry message because it's been a day or two and you haven't heard from her.

Some of these girls only do answer their messages once every couple or few days. Like work, because it is. They could be extra busy or maybe it's their days off. If you gave her your business, chances are she want to keep your business and not ignore you. She'll most likely answer your message when she answers all the others she has in her inbox and then you'll be happy again. Just don't become that "needy" client they all talk about and dread.

What if she cancels an appointment right before it is about to occur.

Shit happens. Don't take it personally.

Yeah, but it sucks when you've paid for your hotel/other expenses and can't get a refund.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Rickwild1 on May 15, 2015, 09:08:04 PM
Some more advice.

If you do find a girl that you like and start corresponding with her, don't get all butt hurt if you don't hear from her right away. Maybe she gives you her cell #, maybe it's an email or PM on a message board like this. You want to keep in touch,  great! Just, don't get mad and sent her an angry message because it's been a day or two and you haven't heard from her.

Some of these girls only do answer their messages once every couple or few days. Like work, because it is. They could be extra busy or maybe it's their days off. If you gave her your business, chances are she want to keep your business and not ignore you. She'll most likely answer your message when she answers all the others she has in her inbox and then you'll be happy again. Just don't become that "needy" client they all talk about and dread.

What if she cancels an appointment right before it is about to occur.

Shit happens. Don't take it personally.

Yeah, but it sucks when you've paid for your hotel/other expenses and can't get a refund.

It's been said here a million times. Pretty sure even you've said it.

Have a back up plan.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: QTo on May 15, 2015, 09:15:36 PM
It's been said here a million times. Pretty sure even you've said it.

Have a back up plan.

I guess a last minute Craigslist search could be a viable backup LOL
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Rickwild1 on May 15, 2015, 09:24:13 PM
It's been said here a million times. Pretty sure even you've said it.

Have a back up plan.

I guess a last minute Craigslist search could be a viable backup LOL

I dunno about all that lol.

As much as you party. Don't try an bullshit me. You have a back up plan for your back up plan.  ;D
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: QTo on May 16, 2015, 09:35:32 AM
It's been said here a million times. Pretty sure even you've said it.

Have a back up plan.

I guess a last minute Craigslist search could be a viable backup LOL

I dunno about all that lol.

As much as you party. Don't try an bullshit me. You have a back up plan for your back up plan.  ;D

Let's see, I have top two ladies, then I have two others that are near the top, then I have a lady or two I've talked to before and price negotiated, just never got around to partying... then a few new ladies and about a dozen or more ladies that I've partied with before and I'm sure most will be willing to party again... so I guess I'm set for now LOL
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: pitasandwichpimp on May 17, 2015, 09:47:55 AM
CCL- if a lady cancels an appointment right before, it sucks....plain and simple. From someone who is punctual and rarely misses work, I don't care to listen to the reason why. Like QTo said, there is almost certainly expenses involved on the clients part if they cancel.

You can only hope the lady has some decency and not only makes up the appointment but gives you some extras for the inconvenience.

Oh Sleddy boy, I know you got those "extras for the inconvenience" you experienced and it is impressive.

I'm sure the extras in the one incident I'm thinking of involved a lot of BAreback this and that. Maybe even full on bareback sex. No need to confirm or deny.

Nicely done. Tip of the cap to you.

Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: pitasandwichpimp on May 28, 2015, 09:52:03 PM
Could Care Less, you seem to be a fan.

"A fan"?

Meaning exactly what? 

A fan of yours?
A fan of hers?
A fan of bareback?
Or
A 'fan' as I really add nothing to the room, I just move hot air around?


I am a fan of most of the above.

Your holly field report was very useful.   Provided pros and cons. Not all just fluff harlequin romance shit.

Reports like that legitimize the provider and providee.

Nice work.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: COH on August 09, 2015, 09:06:54 AM
Listed are a few links to topics which could be useful?



http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=14250.0

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=13404.0

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=12377.0

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=7814.0

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=13421.0

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=18979.0

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=18159.0

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=18000.0

http://www.sex-in-nevada.net/lpin/reviews/text/0818.html

http://www.sex-in-nevada.net/lpin/reviews/text/0498.html

Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: COH on October 17, 2015, 03:46:53 PM
"What if I get a $2000 quote"?

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=20714.0
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: TD1055 on November 09, 2015, 08:34:12 PM
Hello, I am also a newbie and I would like to thank everyone who participated on this thread and gave useful information. I will be making my first brothel trip this week to the Mound House area, and I am really excited about it. I will post a thread about my experience in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: COH on December 18, 2015, 09:02:56 PM
A topic, "Planning your first brothel visit", includes some great suggestions from some members.

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=21127.0

Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: ClarissaSteel on March 17, 2016, 01:02:43 PM
Just be kind and respectful.  It is ok to be nervous, everyone is.  We try to make you feel as comfortable as possible so you can have a great time :)
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: ShyKyle87 on March 30, 2016, 07:54:22 PM
A newbie to the world of brothels here.  I must say that this thread, the whole board really, has been really helpful to read as I hopefully start planning my first brothel visits.  Thank you for posting this.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Jake on June 25, 2016, 08:45:24 PM
This thread is a plethora of information for a newbie like me. Thank you all for your great tips and recommendations for a newbie like me. I am reading multiple posts for two weeks now and I am trying to plan my first visit by August most probably to the elko area. When will the latest pricing surveys be available. Any info on pricing will really help.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Hiking Guy on June 26, 2016, 09:30:59 PM
This thread is a plethora of information for a newbie like me. Thank you all for your great tips and recommendations for a newbie like me. I am reading multiple posts for two weeks now and I am trying to plan my first visit by August most probably to the elko area. When will the latest pricing surveys be available. Any info on pricing will really help.

Hi Jake,

Welcome to the SIN forum.

The last SIN Pricing Survey published was for years 2011-2013. I've attached it to this post.
The next SIN Pricing Survey (for years 2012-2014) is expected to be published by mid-July 2016.
After that, I plan to have the latest SIN Pricing Survey (for years 2013-2015) published by the end of summer.
Then, after that, I hope to get back on track of publishing the SIN Pricing Surveys by March 1st of every year.

I've been way behind on getting these finished due to major work (i.e. Job) commitments involving a lot a traveling.

The Hiking Guy


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Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: MrTShirt on June 26, 2016, 09:37:20 PM
I've been way behind on getting these finished due to major work (i.e. Job) commitments involving a lot a traveling.

Now HG, that is no excuse.  Tell your boss you have important data the world needs to know, and you need to spend extra time in NV.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Jake on June 30, 2016, 09:20:33 PM
Hi Hiking Guy,

Thanks for the update. I will look forward to the 2012-2014 pricing survey by mid July. It will really help me for my first brothel visit in August. Thanks.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: COH on July 11, 2016, 02:42:09 PM
"Negotiations"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=22971.0




"negotiations (again)"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=21882.0




"Time or Activities ? "

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=21921.0




"Clarity in Negotiations"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=21979.0




"# of Pops Per Party"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=23170.0




"What is the average opening negotiation price"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=21103.0




"$4,000/hr initial price quote"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=22213.0




"Is it just me..."

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=19658.0




"A LA Carte Bitches GTFO (getdafukouttahere)"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=19352.0
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: jadecapri on July 20, 2016, 08:39:51 PM
You should get to know the ladies a little bit. I post a lot info for you to know how I am and to get acquainted before your visit. You can also read some of my field reports
I am redoing my website to edit previous location and such, but it will have all the good info in no time. Check it out http://www.jadecapri.com (http://www.jadecapri.com)
 
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Tennessee25 on July 20, 2016, 08:53:29 PM
You should get to know the ladies a little bit. I post a lot info for you to know how I am and to get acquainted before your visit. You can also read some of my field reports
I am redoing my website to edit previous location and such, but it will have all the good info in no time. Check it out http://www.jadecapri.com (http://www.jadecapri.com)
 


I will PM you for where your hot buttons are and see if we can't find a few new ones......lol
TN 25
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: jadecapri on July 21, 2016, 09:38:41 AM
You should get to know the ladies a little bit. I post a lot info for you to know how I am and to get acquainted before your visit. You can also read some of my field reports
I am redoing my website to edit previous location and such, but it will have all the good info in no time. Check it out http://www.jadecapri.com (http://www.jadecapri.com)
 

I will PM you for where your hot buttons are and see if we can't find a few new ones......lol
TN 25

Promise? hehe
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: KittiMinx on July 25, 2016, 11:27:54 PM
We don't bite (unless you want us to). And most of the Ladies, especially those who post on here, are very open and approachable! Don't hesitate to drop a PM if you have specific questions!  You're more likely to get the answers you want, more honest ones, here (as by just posting your threads you're opening up the platform to multiple different sources) than you would on boards made and owned by specific brothels - that's just the truth.  For talking to specific ladies I would also recommend seeing if any you like have their own social media, blogs, etc you can contact them on outside of forums and emails if you have questions where other platforms don't feel as comfortable. This is a service industry at its core. We're here to serve you.

(https://m.popkey.co/ed1e0f/Y9EVy.gif)
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: GunInstructor on November 17, 2016, 07:31:44 PM
I don't mean to be a "Debbie Downer", but the very first link that is supposed to take to an old FAQ just ends up taking to a broken link.

This newbie (still a virgin to LPIN... Making a trip in January) wants to learn all he can.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: ColtsFan90 on November 17, 2016, 08:43:27 PM
I don't mean to be a "Debbie Downer", but the very first link that is supposed to take to an old FAQ just ends up taking to a broken link.

This newbie (still a virgin to LPIN... Making a trip in January) wants to learn all he can.

When I first joined, someone posted this link.  I'm surprised it wasn't ever posted here in this thread. 

http://nevadabrothelguide.blogspot.com/p/welcome.html
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: HomosexualHarold on January 16, 2017, 12:52:24 PM
What happened to the pricing survey page?
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: KittiMinx on January 29, 2017, 04:25:32 AM
You're paying for a service. Have a basic idea of what you want before you come. And decide ahead of time if you want hooker or a courtesan. Hooker gives you just the goods with none of the mushy stuff or full intimacy. A courtesan will give you the goods intimately while also be a real companion you can talk to and is affectionate.  Either way you're still paying for a service from a professional.  We're here to do our job. There are boundaries. Respect them. Because if you don't, don't act surprised when things suddenly don't go your way. We're people. This is a service industry and we're people doing a job. Respect us and our boundaries, know what you want from your experience, don't waste anyone's time, and you'll be surprised by just how well you're treated and how good your experience is.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Tapper2 on February 07, 2017, 11:08:48 PM
I don't mean to be a "Debbie Downer", but the very first link that is supposed to take to an old FAQ just ends up taking to a broken link.

This newbie (still a virgin to LPIN... Making a trip in January) wants to learn all he can.

When I first joined, someone posted this link.  I'm surprised it wasn't ever posted here in this thread. 

http://nevadabrothelguide.blogspot.com/p/welcome.html

That guide was put together by JSBach a few years back I believe.  He did his research well IMO.  Good info for newbies and lurkers alike.  Anyone who does not prepare and research LPIN before going is taking big risks.    Not sure what happened to him.  He posted often for quite a while then eventually may have lost interest in LPIN and moved on.  Nice to see that his LPIN advice/research blog remains online to inform others.  Kudos JSBach wherever you may be now.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: COH on February 12, 2017, 06:47:01 PM
What could "Monger Rate" mean?

500 is a popular number  ;)

So..... a monger's rate might fall in the range of $300/hr - $500/hr or perhaps $300/hr - $600/hr.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: KittiMinx on February 12, 2017, 06:55:08 PM
Stalk a Lady, especially one who takes no shit - expect your ass to get kicked.  You're renting our time not buying a girlfriend even if your parties are "GFE".  There's boundaries you do not cross and if you do, don't act surprised at the consequences. The kindest is just the Lady cutting you off. Go too far and you could get banned from houses. Have reasonable expectations and the right frame of mind. If you want to actually buy a wife/girlfriend - this isn't that industry.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: MrTShirt on February 13, 2017, 02:07:45 PM
...If you want to actually buy a wife/girlfriend - this isn't that industry.
That is why I am declaring myself part Saudi and part Indian, within vestments in oil...big investments in oil.   :)

(I always have a solution.)
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: dbldblu51 on February 16, 2017, 09:54:33 AM
I could use help with one aspect of visiting a brothel.  I am a newbie.  I saunter up to the bar at the MR, lets say, and before long a lady comes up chat.  That is why we are there right?  Except lets say that I am not particularly attracted to this particular lady. How best to discharge her is the question.  It is difficult for me to be blunt with people in general.  Would really like to here from some ladies, I'm sure you don't want your time wasted, so what should a guy say?
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: MidwestCouple on February 16, 2017, 10:37:00 AM
I could use help with one aspect of visiting a brothel.  I am a newbie.  I saunter up to the bar at the MR, lets say, and before long a lady comes up chat.  That is why we are there right?  Except lets say that I am not particularly attracted to this particular lady. How best to discharge her is the question.  It is difficult for me to be blunt with people in general.  Would really like to here from some ladies, I'm sure you don't want your time wasted, so what should a guy say?

That's a great question!  Maybe something to talk about in the general area as I'm sure it's not just us newbie's that run into this! 
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: ChicagoBob on February 16, 2017, 12:24:13 PM
I could use help with one aspect of visiting a brothel.  I am a newbie.  I saunter up to the bar at the MR, lets say, and before long a lady comes up chat.  That is why we are there right?  Except lets say that I am not particularly attracted to this particular lady. How best to discharge her is the question.  It is difficult for me to be blunt with people in general.  Would really like to here from some ladies, I'm sure you don't want your time wasted, so what should a guy say?

I've learned to just say "It's nice to meet you, but I'm going to talk to some of the other ladies too"  Then simply move down the bar.  This always leaves the door open and is non-offensive since you are actually saying "maybe later?" by saying the word "too".   

Just remember, this is YOUR party and you can do the choosing.  Most ladies realize that "It's just business"     
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: HomosexualHarold on February 17, 2017, 11:46:13 AM
I could use help with one aspect of visiting a brothel.  I am a newbie.  I saunter up to the bar at the MR, lets say, and before long a lady comes up chat.  That is why we are there right?  Except lets say that I am not particularly attracted to this particular lady. How best to discharge her is the question.  It is difficult for me to be blunt with people in general.  Would really like to here from some ladies, I'm sure you don't want your time wasted, so what should a guy say?

Offer her less than she'll accept. She'll let you move on to someone else.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: COH on February 18, 2017, 05:05:31 PM
I could use help with one aspect of visiting a brothel.  I am a newbie.  I saunter up to the bar at the MR, lets say, and before long a lady comes up chat.  That is why we are there right?  Except lets say that I am not particularly attracted to this particular lady. How best to discharge her is the question.  It is difficult for me to be blunt with people in general.  Would really like to here from some ladies, I'm sure you don't want your time wasted, so what should a guy say?

Possible answers:

1) Be nice, friendly, and have patience.

2) "be polite but let them know you are waiting for someone.  It cuts right to it.  Most will leave shortly after, if not and they ask, "for whom", remember you are under no obligation to answer.  Simply put, you may be waiting for a lady who is getting ready, a lady currently in a party, it may be that lady in the corner you hope approaches you next, or it may be you are simply "waiting" for that next someone.  Bottom line, it gets them to leave."
-- Slednx

3) A past visit entered a brothel and took a seat.  Minutes later saw my lady of choice entered the brothel.  Simultaneously another lady got out of her seat, approached me, and started a conversation.  At this moment wanted to speak with my lady of choice including partying with her shortly as I didn't want her partying with someone else.  So my eyes were focused on my lady of choice and said to the other lady, "..... just entered the bar and was looking to party with her".  The lady who approached me probably understood why a very brief conversation occurred.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: RM on March 22, 2017, 12:15:08 AM
I have a really stupid question coming from a complete newbie.

I am the type of person that prefers to "tip" someone for their services that they provide me ( this is especially true for someone that will likely take care of me after we have a good time with each other ).

If I were to negotiate a price of ( let's just say ) $1000 with the Courtesan that I decide to spend some time with and then pay accordingly.....after we are done....if I were to decide to give an "extra tip" ( let's just say another $100 to show my appreciation for the last hour ), does that "extra tip" just split back up appropriately between the Courtesan and the House?

or

Does the Courtesan get to keep the "extra tip" all for herself?

I assume that every $$$ and Cent that is paid and given to the Courtesan ( Negotiated Price and any "extra tip" ) goes back into the overally amount of $$$ that the Courtesan has to give back to the House.   I'm just wondering if it's simply better to negotiate the price to $1100 ( instead of $1000 ) if I intend to tip her ( regardless ) since all the $$$ will be split between the House and the Courtesan.

I know it sounds like a strange question ( why give more $$ when you don't have to? ), but I'm just the type that prefers to show my appreciation to someone that will likely be showing me an unforgettable time.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Ruby Rae on March 22, 2017, 08:56:02 AM
I have a really stupid question coming from a complete newbie.

I am the type of person that prefers to "tip" someone for their services that they provide me ( this is especially true for someone that will likely take care of me after we have a good time with each other ).

If I were to negotiate a price of ( let's just say ) $1000 with the Courtesan that I decide to spend some time with and then pay accordingly.....after we are done....if I were to decide to give an "extra tip" ( let's just say another $100 to show my appreciation for the last hour ), does that "extra tip" just split back up appropriately between the Courtesan and the House?

or

Does the Courtesan get to keep the "extra tip" all for herself?

I assume that every $$$ and Cent that is paid and given to the Courtesan ( Negotiated Price and any "extra tip" ) goes back into the overally amount of $$$ that the Courtesan has to give back to the House.   I'm just wondering if it's simply better to negotiate the price to $1100 ( instead of $1000 ) if I intend to tip her ( regardless ) since all the $$$ will be split between the House and the Courtesan.

I know it sounds like a strange question ( why give more $$ when you don't have to? ), but I'm just the type that prefers to show my appreciation to someone that will likely be showing me an unforgettable time.

I recommend to my clients to just put their tip money towards the party. It will get the person more time to spend with me :) Because yes, it's split with the house anyway!
xoxo
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: COH on March 22, 2017, 09:28:11 AM
I have a really stupid question coming from a complete newbie.

I am the type of person that prefers to "tip" someone for their services that they provide me ( this is especially true for someone that will likely take care of me after we have a good time with each other ).

If I were to negotiate a price of ( let's just say ) $1000 with the Courtesan that I decide to spend some time with and then pay accordingly.....after we are done....if I were to decide to give an "extra tip" ( let's just say another $100 to show my appreciation for the last hour ), does that "extra tip" just split back up appropriately between the Courtesan and the House?

or

Does the Courtesan get to keep the "extra tip" all for herself?

I assume that every $$$ and Cent that is paid and given to the Courtesan ( Negotiated Price and any "extra tip" ) goes back into the overally amount of $$$ that the Courtesan has to give back to the House.   I'm just wondering if it's simply better to negotiate the price to $1100 ( instead of $1000 ) if I intend to tip her ( regardless ) since all the $$$ will be split between the House and the Courtesan.

I know it sounds like a strange question ( why give more $$ when you don't have to? ), but I'm just the type that prefers to show my appreciation to someone that will likely be showing me an unforgettable time.

"I'm just wondering if it's simply better to negotiate the price to $1100 ( instead of $1000 ) if I intend to tip her ( regardless ) since all the $$$ will be split between the House and the Courtesan."
--RM




Suggest to negotiate a lower amount and tip accordingly.  See Reply #40 in the topic, "Tips....no it's a different one."


http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=24531.0

Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: RM on March 23, 2017, 12:05:24 AM
Thanks to all who responsed.

Although it appears that it is up to the Customer to offer a tip ( or not ) and the Courtesan to accept it ( or turn it down in favor of a future "party" ), the suggestion that I am finding ( from the "Tip" thread ) is to simply add the tip amount into the negotiated price as part of the upper limit.   Everything ultimately goes back to the House and the Courtesan ( and can't be kept all for herself )....so, it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: KittiMinx on April 21, 2017, 02:04:54 AM
Being perpetually engulfed in a cloud of Axe Body Spray is just as off putting as nothing bathing at all and having a fog of BO Funk around you. Excessive Axe is not an excuse for bathing. (Or really excessive use of any fragrance for that matter - even cologne.) It's all fun and games until Ladies can't come near you without covering their noses or sneezing!
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: KittiMinx on July 28, 2017, 12:13:56 PM
Please read the Descriptions of what each board section is for before starting a thread in them.

It takes less than 5 minutes when you're on the main page seeing all the different sections to read the descriptions of what each one is for before clicking on it and going in to start a new thread.

For example, General Discussion is not for Houses to advertise lineups or specials or any of that nor is it for Ladies to post their schedules or announce their arrival in a particular house.  The sections for Brothel Lineups and House Announcements are for lineups and House-centered announcements, while Ladies Schedules and LPIN Ladies Advertisements are for Ladies to post their schedules and make threads introducing themselves, sharing pictures, announcing specials, etc.

General Discussion is for discussion threads related to LPIN as a whole and where those new to the industry can ask questions. Trip Summaries are where reviews can be found and to inquire about all the aspects of travel as a consumer of LPIN.  Way Off Topic is for everything, not LPIN related. Feedback is for mentioning a technical issue with the boards or offering suggestions, and Fight Club is where to go to talk anything political or when a thread gets too out of hand but not bad enough to lock.

And one of the very first sections on the top before you even get to the General Discussion section is a spot that says "Forum Rules". Please read through that before posting.

Just.... try to read before posting. Pretty please. If you're on here you obviously must know how to read to some extent.

There's plenty to be learned here on these boards but it makes it a lot easier when you take the extra time to learn what goes where and why!
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Eureka on November 19, 2017, 07:15:12 PM
Are Amazon gift cards and the like considered gifts? So they don't have to be split for the lady with the house? Because that would be odd lol.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Nylo on December 30, 2017, 08:34:11 AM
Great post, I wish such information was available when I first visited a southern nevada ranch about 14 years ago.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Catrina Costa on January 02, 2018, 03:19:04 PM
Communication is key. 
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: COH on January 07, 2018, 04:31:44 PM
"Newbie Here w/ a Few Questions"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=28585.0



"planning trip. where to go first. CC/Elko?"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=28255.0



"ChicagoBob's Newbie Guide to the Best Priced Parties"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=25952.0



"One Piece of Advice"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=26081.0



"What makes you decide where to party? House or lady?"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=25859.0



"Dos and donts of internet communication with a Lady"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=28050.0



"Obstacles to your house visits"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=28466.0



"Prices higher by making appointment?"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=28109.0



"House minimum lines heard during negotiations."

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=28694.0



"How to use your wallet as a prop in a difficult negotiation."

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=25919.0



"$100 Apart"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=26091.0



"What LPIN Has Taught Me"

http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=26994.0

Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: hirohito on February 25, 2018, 11:08:58 AM
I would recommend that you read everything you can and chose the right place for you.  The more informed a customer is the better.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: vanityaffair on March 04, 2018, 09:50:41 PM
Every new Noe should know to relax and calm down the first time in brothel. I see some newbies shaking and sweeting. Breathe relax and enjoy
XO Vanity
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: HomosexualHarold on March 10, 2018, 04:24:56 PM
I've seen it mentioned on the board but what exactly is a spinner?
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: crappie1 on March 10, 2018, 05:05:40 PM
I've seen it mentioned on the board but what exactly is a spinner?

A very petite provider.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: crappie1 on March 10, 2018, 05:06:58 PM
I've seen it mentioned on the board but what exactly is a spinner?

A very petite provider.

Had to look it up myself
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Elkogfe on March 31, 2018, 09:45:37 AM
Spinner-city.com

Our speciality!
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: KittiMinx on May 30, 2018, 12:24:30 PM
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Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Ed1032 on November 25, 2018, 05:54:46 PM
I did a loop of all the Southern houses last month, ended up partying at Sheri's. Then I partied at Sheri's again this week. I researched and read blogs, forums and sites for a month. My advice to people thinking about going to a brothel is do some research, then just take the plunge and go. Just get out there and check them out with an open mind. Maybe you won't like the first courtesan or house, then go to another, maybe even another. I didn't like the first two houses or two ladies. But the third house and lady were great. Then when I went to Sheri's a second time and partied with another lady, I had an experience that was so amazing, it will be burned into my mind forever.

Basically, just be open and see what happens.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Scatha105 on February 16, 2019, 03:43:06 PM
Very helpful thread, thank you!

Doing some reading in advance of my first trip next week.
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: skrules on February 20, 2019, 06:32:52 PM
Odd question. I take injections for ED problems. Would this be a problem at the ranches? I can't see why it should be but wanted to check. Thanks!
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Hiking Guy on February 24, 2019, 01:45:28 PM
Odd question. I take injections for ED problems. Would this be a problem at the ranches? I can't see why it should be but wanted to check. Thanks!

No, this would not be a problem at the ranches.

The Hiking Guy
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: KittiMinx on July 03, 2019, 10:49:06 AM
You can find budget-friendly Ladies at the larger Houses. Will they always be your First Choice? Maybe not. But there is a high chance you'll find someone willing to work with you.

Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: TheBorg on July 26, 2019, 01:14:09 PM
Discussion of anything illegal or borderline illegal may not be permitted here. This includes advocating for drug use in brothels and workers with STDs. Also House Drama is not permitted.

- The Borg
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: Kid Presentable on September 28, 2022, 03:49:18 PM
I just joined and was hoping to read through the FAQs and pricing surveys, but that info appears to be 10+ years old and the links don't work anymore. Are there any updated resources?
Title: Re: What should every newbie know?
Post by: PacoQ on November 16, 2022, 07:16:29 PM
I just joined and was hoping to read through the FAQs and pricing surveys, but that info appears to be 10+ years old and the links don't work anymore. Are there any updated resources?

I was wondering the same thing, but I've been reading other threads in the meantime to see what I could come up with. I'd suggest reading more recent threads to get an idea of what's going on more currently. I'm definitely going to post my own thread for sure to get an idea of the current environment, etc.