Post by: Sonja on December 09, 2018, 05:28:49 AM
To be clear, I had already resigned at Love Ranch Vegas and had plans to get back to my life in TN & FL. Suzette lured us to Moundhouse with job offers and an appealing compensation package as well as promises of a reliable chain of command & management support. I have resisted going up North for years but I was very excited by the time I accepted this job. After a 6 day cross country road trip in the RV, I arrived. Doctored on the way there, got my Sheriff's card the next morning and booked a substantial party within hours of being on the floor. I met with Suzette and shared all the suggestions from clients about what we could do to improve the house. Day 2, another party & a deposit posted. Day 3, finally got moved in, and with permission from Suzette & guidance from the Cashier, hung some pictures in the house. And THAT was the end of my career at Moundhouse.
The next morning I awoke to an email banning me from Love Ranch for a week & forbidding me from communicating with the ladies online. Suzette said she would meet with me Thursday to discuss my role there. Instead, she fired me via email on Wed., then told me to come in on Thursday and she would get back with me about my role there. Suzette never got back to ME - but told the staff to treat me like any other working girl. No one in upper management returned texts or emails and, this morning I am "banned" from the Bunny Board.
The whole experience felt like I slid down the rabbit hole and landed in a Nightmare Wonderland with an insane Queen intent on destroying me. The quick transition from the happy welcoming Suzette who seduced me into going there vs. the bitter, angry Suzette I got on my arrival created a barometric energy akin to Kathy Bates in Misery when she walked in and told James Caan, "I'm feeling blue today".
This is an unprecedented experience in my life (thankfully). I am a serious pumpkin and very earnest about my work ethic. I'm loyal as a dog to people who have been good to me and I am obsessive about keeping my promises. I'm not a bridge burner. In fact, I have never burned a bridge. But I'm throwing a match on this one.
Every time I think I've done it all - some new experience smacks me upside the head. And now, life will go on in a different direction.
Post by: Glennster on December 09, 2018, 05:54:09 AM
Post by: TheMightyPeanut on December 09, 2018, 06:45:02 AM
Sorry to hear, Sonja. You've worked for the Hof brothels for some time and this is a really disheartening way to cap it all off. FWIW even as far on the outside as I am, this is not the first time I've heard Suzette referred to as a mad queen. I wonder what the future of Moundhouse will be with Suzette at the helm.
Good luck on the next adventure.
Post by: Bart.Pimpson on December 09, 2018, 07:10:43 AM
Post by: hikingguy2013 on December 09, 2018, 07:54:49 AM
Post by: NavySteve on December 09, 2018, 07:58:03 AM
Post by: Q on December 09, 2018, 08:36:31 AM
Q
Post by: TheImpsDelight on December 09, 2018, 08:37:43 AM
Start your own brothel. With blackjack. And hookers.
In fact, forget the blackjack!
(Sorry I couldn't resist).
I'm sorry Sonja. I don't know you at all but you seem like a very genuine person. Whatever comes next, I wish you well.
Post by: ChicagoBob on December 09, 2018, 09:36:58 AM
I'm sorry that things didn't work out. Mound House needed some fresh ideas, but I guess it's doomed to business as usual. One of these days, they will realize that there's no change without change!
Post by: Nelspot on December 09, 2018, 09:50:00 AM
I hope you don't wash your hands completely of LPIN, as there was nobody better than you. Isn't there someplace that could use you? You raised the LPIN bar very high, and the profession will not be the same without you. Its their loss.
Again, I'm very sorry to hear this happened ...
Post by: MrTShirt on December 09, 2018, 10:28:54 AM
Post by: smoothpate on December 09, 2018, 10:37:51 AM
I guess we've seen the future of Moundhouse in the post-Hof era!
Post by: Ed1032 on December 09, 2018, 10:40:59 AM
Post by: PerpetualStudent on December 09, 2018, 10:50:10 AM
Post by: Dr. Who on December 09, 2018, 10:53:04 AM
Post by: wrb55roscojr on December 09, 2018, 11:22:44 AM
Post by: CoreyInTheHouse on December 09, 2018, 11:27:26 AM
Post by: Nelspot on December 09, 2018, 12:16:16 PM
Sonja, have you considered forwarding these comments to the powers that be to make a point? I mean, this really pisses me off, and I, for one, will not be visiting Moundhouse any time in the foreseeable future. I don't think it would be too much of a stretch to call for a Monger boycott of the LRN to drive home a point. I doubt they'd take you back, or more importantly, I doubt (and with good reason) that you'd want to go back, but calling for better ways to handle very strong earners, like yourself, is definitely in the offing.
Post by: Jack Rackham on December 09, 2018, 12:33:38 PM
Wow, that's REALLY bizarre and utterly stupid too. Moundhouse's loss.
I wish you the best in all your endeavors. I only know you from the board (my loss) but I think you are a strong woman and will always be successful in whatever you do. Good luck!
JR
Post by: cronuswalker on December 09, 2018, 12:35:44 PM
Cronus
Post by: FumbleNutts on December 09, 2018, 12:43:09 PM
When I responded to a thread for suggestions, the first thing that came to my mind was the treatment of the great ladies of the Cul de sac. Everyone should be treated with respect. Hopefully, Suzette will try and work with people instead of demands and talking down to others.
Don't look at it as a firing. This was a power play from someone that wouldn't want you to succeed. CB's right, she's got to get an open mind for change or change will never come.
Post by: hirohito on December 09, 2018, 01:01:37 PM
Post by: vanityaffair on December 09, 2018, 02:20:48 PM
XO Vanity
Post by: Sonja on December 09, 2018, 02:58:55 PM
Please don't boycott LRN. That will only hurt the ladies there and they are each amazing sexy humans (except for 1, LOL). They rely on that house to make a living. It's Suzette's lowest $ house and won't affect her life at all even if she closed it.
It did occur to me that the offer might have been made under Dennis's directive. If that's the case, Suzette was a better actress than the most jaded prostitute on earth. I really believed her. She inspired the hell out of me and I was eager to learn from her.
My gut says it might have something to do with her grieving process. So much happened after the offer was made - losing Dennis while she was in the battle of her life to save all the houses in Lyon county, and more recently she broke her arm. I had the strong feeling she was not ready for any more "loss" and perceived me as trying to "take away" her place at LRN. Doesn't matter if it was her idea, I think this was emotional rather than rational. While I can have empathy for her in that regard, I felt no personal need to stay and be abused.
I really wish she had let us know before we took off for NV. The trip here and back is $2400 wasted. I took off before my daughter's bday & Thanksgiving so I could be there on the date she chose. Postponed building my FL house which doesn't seem like a huge sacrifice - except there is a new code starting in Jan that will cost me $15K more than I would have paid if I'd started construction in Dec. All could have been avoided if a little professional courtesy had been extended.
Post by: oldskiis on December 09, 2018, 04:48:43 PM
Post by: Sonja on December 09, 2018, 05:03:59 PM
Reminds me of my favorite strip joint, guy had worked hard and built a very successful business out of nothing, he liked to play around with the dancers but had respect for the word NO and his help was as loyal to him as he was to them. He died young and his widow fired every dancer he had ever flirted with, and all the management and help, place went down hill fast and she sold out cheap. In the widow's case, it was not grief, just revenge, but sad to see a good business destroyed and people lose their jobs over nothing.
I can see how that would happen. This in't that, though. I never slept with Dennis. I was never even one of his favorites. So not jealousy. When it was happening, it was the most insane, bizarre chain of events that I couldn't interpret or believe. With a little distance, I know it was more complicated than that.
Post by: mobeerlswhine on December 09, 2018, 08:01:07 PM
Sonya, if you feel that you are truly gone and never to return, I think we would all value your honest appraisal of the conditions at the Hof legacy houses and your predictions for the near future. You may well be in the best position to comment.
Post by: TheMightyPeanut on December 09, 2018, 08:50:10 PM
Post by: Michael J. on December 09, 2018, 10:02:17 PM
Post by: Cherry Lane on December 09, 2018, 10:41:51 PM
Promises were broken with mind-numbing speed, to the point I wondered if I was losing my mind.
To be clear, I had already resigned at Love Ranch Vegas and had plans to get back to my life in TN & FL. Suzette lured us to Moundhouse with job offers and an appealing compensation package as well as promises of a reliable chain of command & management support. I have resisted going up North for years but I was very excited by the time I accepted this job. After a 6 day cross country road trip in the RV, I arrived. Doctored on the way there, got my Sheriff's card the next morning and booked a substantial party within hours of being on the floor. I met with Suzette and shared all the suggestions from clients about what we could do to improve the house. Day 2, another party & a deposit posted. Day 3, finally got moved in, and with permission from Suzette & guidance from the Cashier, hung some pictures in the house. And THAT was the end of my career at Moundhouse.
The next morning I awoke to an email banning me from Love Ranch for a week & forbidding me from communicating with the ladies online. Suzette said she would meet with me Thursday to discuss my role there. Instead, she fired me via email on Wed., then told me to come in on Thursday and she would get back with me about my role there. Suzette never got back to ME - but told the staff to treat me like any other working girl. No one in upper management returned texts or emails and, this morning I am "banned" from the Bunny Board.
The whole experience felt like I slid down the rabbit hole and landed in a Nightmare Wonderland with an insane Queen intent on destroying me. The quick transition from the happy welcoming Suzette who seduced me into going there vs. the bitter, angry Suzette I got on my arrival created a barometric energy akin to Kathy Bates in Misery when she walked in and told James Caan, "I'm feeling blue today".
This is an unprecedented experience in my life (thankfully). I am a serious pumpkin and very earnest about my work ethic. I'm loyal as a dog to people who have been good to me and I am obsessive about keeping my promises. I'm not a bridge burner. In fact, I have never burned a bridge. But I'm throwing a match on this one.
Every time I think I've done it all - some new experience smacks me upside the head. And now, life will go on in a different direction.
I am going to start off by how unprofessional you are in all aspects, this post proving your true inner person. How dare you disrespect Madam Suzette and the ladies of Love Ranch North. To call us the lowest money making house, very professional, comparing Madam Suzette to the character in Misery... how dare you!
Publically posting this thread, UNPROFESSIONAL!
You fail to tell everyone on here the truth about yourself, how you walked in Love Ranch North placing your pictures everywhere, your first day there... trying to take over, not caring how other ladies felt. You did not care other ladies have worked hard, EARNED the privilege of having pictures up. Not you though, you can do as you want, going against Madam Suzette's wishes. To speak about her and her mourning process, what gives you the right? Madam Suzette has always and will continue to be successful within the business, the business which Dennis trusted her with... not you. The qaulities and huge heart Madam Suzette has and for you to decimate her character for all to read, shame on you. If you were half of the woman, the MADAM she was, maybe EVERYONE would want you around, the truth is... NO ONE WANTED YOU HERE FROM THE BEGINNING! Knowing how you have treated the ladies down South, not to mention you are a thief. Yes, that is right... let's tell your wonderful qaulities, the ones which no one knows about!
Let's be honest, you are referring to me, that is right... well known, well loved Companion... Cherry Lane, as the one, LOL. HMMM, maybe because you disrespected me, disrespected the house I love and I will assure you, you are only mad because you got DEMOTED and I pretty much took your place of training. Why don't you write the truth on here, with your sugar coated, I am so Intelligent sounding, BS threads.
I am ashamed you worked for the ranches, to turn around and disrespect both Dennis and Suzette by publicly trying to embarrass them. Did you ever think Love Ranch North became a low money making house the day EVERYONE saw you on the menu!
You are a parasite!
I can assure you, every lady and staff member work hard and we are proud to be LRN, how dare you try to belittle us on here publically. You wanted to be part of what you said a low money making house, WE WANTED NO PARTS OF YOU!
To all who feel sorry for this woman, please DO NOT. She did this to herself at LRN, She was never fired, she chose to leave. She chose to come in LRN smothering it with her selfishness. Her role was to help other ladies with advertisements, etc... instead she advertised herself.
She was a ME team! Not a WE team!
Ladies transferred other houses before her arrival at LRN from previously working with her down South. Sonya is not the saint she swears by.
I can not believe you had the audacity to speak so little about Madam Suzette! All she has done for everyone, dedicated her life to Dennis, the ranches, us... her family for the past 28 years! She never lied to you, you lied to her... you are manipulative, you are a liar, you are aggressive and You think you are intimidating. I beleive you met your match with me, you or no one else will come in LRN and try to take it over.
We work together, we respect eachother, we love eachother!
You walked in the doors acting as if you were better...
a mindset that sets you up for disaster.
Your fake smile and emails. We all saw through it...
This post tops it all!
As I earned my college degree in business, I would never slander anyone publically after repeatedly stating how professional I am.
Why don't you start a NEW THREAD... call it
I freely left LRN because my top concern was MYSELF!
UNLIKE ME!
Everyone who knows me... knows LRN and my career with Madam Suzette is my life, besides my children of course.
I am dedicated, loyal and plan to be here a very long time.
There are days I sacrifice my own work to assure others get the help they need, or LRN parties and media is running smoothly... but I have amazing help of the staff and my LRN sisters when I need them and we are a unified family!
WHY?
Because we show eachother love & respect...
Two important characteristics you do not have, it shows in this thread!
I love this house and everyone in it! Don't ever speak about them or Madam Suzette in a disrespectful manner again!
Madam Suzette has taught me so much, she has been there for me at my lows... I find it an honor just to know this amazing woman... I find it a true blessing to have a career at LRN and have her ad my boss, but when need be... she is ways their as my family...
All of our family! WE LOVE MADAM SUZETTE!
Jealousy in life gets you know where...
Maybe it is time you retire!
Post by: Cherry Lane on December 09, 2018, 10:50:55 PM
Promises were broken with mind-numbing speed, to the point I wondered if I was losing my mind.
To be clear, I had already resigned at Love Ranch Vegas and had plans to get back to my life in TN & FL. Suzette lured us to Moundhouse with job offers and an appealing compensation package as well as promises of a reliable chain of command & management support. I have resisted going up North for years but I was very excited by the time I accepted this job. After a 6 day cross country road trip in the RV, I arrived. Doctored on the way there, got my Sheriff's card the next morning and booked a substantial party within hours of being on the floor. I met with Suzette and shared all the suggestions from clients about what we could do to improve the house. Day 2, another party & a deposit posted. Day 3, finally got moved in, and with permission from Suzette & guidance from the Cashier, hung some pictures in the house. And THAT was the end of my career at Moundhouse.
The next morning I awoke to an email banning me from Love Ranch for a week & forbidding me from communicating with the ladies online. Suzette said she would meet with me Thursday to discuss my role there. Instead, she fired me via email on Wed., then told me to come in on Thursday and she would get back with me about my role there. Suzette never got back to ME - but told the staff to treat me like any other working girl. No one in upper management returned texts or emails and, this morning I am "banned" from the Bunny Board.
The whole experience felt like I slid down the rabbit hole and landed in a Nightmare Wonderland with an insane Queen intent on destroying me. The quick transition from the happy welcoming Suzette who seduced me into going there vs. the bitter, angry Suzette I got on my arrival created a barometric energy akin to Kathy Bates in Misery when she walked in and told James Caan, "I'm feeling blue today".
This is an unprecedented experience in my life (thankfully). I am a serious pumpkin and very earnest about my work ethic. I'm loyal as a dog to people who have been good to me and I am obsessive about keeping my promises. I'm not a bridge burner. In fact, I have never burned a bridge. But I'm throwing a match on this one.
Every time I think I've done it all - some new experience smacks me upside the head. And now, life will go on in a different direction.
I am sure you will respond with lies!
Unfortunately I will not be responding as I am professional, said what I needed... THE FACTS!
But now I have a career which I need to attend too.
"HAPPY HOLIDAYS FROM ALL OF US HERE AT LOVE RANCH NORTH!"
Post by: RoxyGold on December 10, 2018, 03:08:27 AM
Sonja, you and I have never met, but we had enough banter on the Bunny Board as well as a handful of gents in common that I considered you a close acquaintance by proxy. Reading this post, you’re just not the person I thought you were. Belittling Love Ranch North as the “not money making house” when it’s just logistics that each location has different sales numbers at different times. Needing to boast that upon arrival you had bookings and deposits, is that really necessary? I guess so, if you have something to prove. Belittling Madam Suzette at all, and going as far as to make those kind of hurtful insulting comparisons, just wow. “The evil queen out to destroy you?” Are you serious? I have seen more mature and professional behavior from sixteen year olds. To say I’m disappointed is such an understatement.
I hope the next chapter of your life brings you peace and happiness, but you don’t need to say hurtful things about other people all over the internet to make yourself look good. All you’re doing is proving you’re just as petty and childish as anyone else.
Post by: Sonja on December 10, 2018, 06:10:40 AM
Just when I thought the hatred and malice was over and it was safe for me to go on SIN again...
Sonja, you and I have never met, but we had enough banter on the Bunny Board as well as a handful of gents in common that I considered you a close acquaintance by proxy. Reading this post, you’re just not the person I thought you were. Belittling Love Ranch North as the “not money making house” when it’s just logistics that each location has different sales numbers at different times. Needing to boast that upon arrival you had bookings and deposits, is that really necessary? I guess so, if you have something to prove. Belittling Madam Suzette at all, and going as far as to make those kind of hurtful insulting comparisons, just wow. “The evil queen out to destroy you?” Are you serious? I have seen more mature and professional behavior from sixteen year olds. To say I’m disappointed is such an understatement.
I hope the next chapter of your life brings you peace and happiness, but you don’t need to say hurtful things about other people all over the internet to make yourself look good. All you’re doing is proving you’re just as petty and childish as anyone else.
I did not see anything in my posts belittling the ladies at LRN. They are all hot delicious delights except for the one - who I did not out - she outed herself. And I will not get into it with her - everyone here can read and determine for themselves where the vitriol is coming from. I would still encourage the gents to call on those ladies regardless of any feelings about my issues with that company. You don't punish the working girls for the sins of the owners.
It is no shame on the ladies that LRN is the lowest earning house at this time. It wasn't always that way and it won't always be that way. The reason Suzette told me she wanted me to run that house is because she is only one person and couldn't devote as much time to them as they deserved. Her focus is reasonably on the houses that bring in the most money. That's just good business practice. The extra attention to LRN and the extra support for the ladies would have worked in their favor. Now that it's public that they could use help and support - it's likely they'll get it out of spite for me - which is cool with me. However it happens as long as it happens.
The "boast" was a short little timeline - 2 days in the house before the insanity - illustrating that everything was on course and nothing bad happened. So, in my opinion, necessary details.
I know you love Suzette and I support that. I wanted to love her, too. I would have loved to have her mentor me. I was looking forward to working with her. I don't hate her or wish her ill. I just saw a different side than you have. I hope you never see that. No one deserves to be treated like that.
As for finding peace... it is already coming. I lost 10 lbs and my stomach was in knots the whole time I was there (barely over a week). The first deep breath I could take came as we were driving away. The storm is passed and I have rainbows on the horizon.
Post by: Sonja on December 10, 2018, 06:12:02 AM
Post by: Sonja on December 10, 2018, 06:21:41 AM
Notice how the loudest voice from Mound House in the recent past has not chimed in at all.
Sonya, if you feel that you are truly gone and never to return, I think we would all value your honest appraisal of the conditions at the Hof legacy houses and your predictions for the near future. You may well be in the best position to comment.
Any reason I had in the past to stay mum about anything has been removed. But, I'll warn you, I don't have a lot of bad things to say. I learned a lot of important things there and forged many lifelong bonds. I will be honest, though.
Post by: Sonja on December 10, 2018, 06:50:18 AM
Sonja, you and I have never met, but we had enough banter on the Bunny Board as well as a handful of gents in common that I considered you a close acquaintance by proxy.
That is a mutual sentiment. I've admired you from afar and always enjoyed your good energy. I wish you the best as well. So sorry I didn't get a chance to spend any face to face time getting to know you better.
Post by: Jack Rackham on December 10, 2018, 07:35:23 AM
I think you just did.Promises were broken with mind-numbing speed, to the point I wondered if I was losing my mind.
To be clear, I had already resigned at Love Ranch Vegas and had plans to get back to my life in TN & FL. Suzette lured us to Moundhouse with job offers and an appealing compensation package as well as promises of a reliable chain of command & management support. I have resisted going up North for years but I was very excited by the time I accepted this job. After a 6 day cross country road trip in the RV, I arrived. Doctored on the way there, got my Sheriff's card the next morning and booked a substantial party within hours of being on the floor. I met with Suzette and shared all the suggestions from clients about what we could do to improve the house. Day 2, another party & a deposit posted. Day 3, finally got moved in, and with permission from Suzette & guidance from the Cashier, hung some pictures in the house. And THAT was the end of my career at Moundhouse.
The next morning I awoke to an email banning me from Love Ranch for a week & forbidding me from communicating with the ladies online. Suzette said she would meet with me Thursday to discuss my role there. Instead, she fired me via email on Wed., then told me to come in on Thursday and she would get back with me about my role there. Suzette never got back to ME - but told the staff to treat me like any other working girl. No one in upper management returned texts or emails and, this morning I am "banned" from the Bunny Board.
The whole experience felt like I slid down the rabbit hole and landed in a Nightmare Wonderland with an insane Queen intent on destroying me. The quick transition from the happy welcoming Suzette who seduced me into going there vs. the bitter, angry Suzette I got on my arrival created a barometric energy akin to Kathy Bates in Misery when she walked in and told James Caan, "I'm feeling blue today".
This is an unprecedented experience in my life (thankfully). I am a serious pumpkin and very earnest about my work ethic. I'm loyal as a dog to people who have been good to me and I am obsessive about keeping my promises. I'm not a bridge burner. In fact, I have never burned a bridge. But I'm throwing a match on this one.
Every time I think I've done it all - some new experience smacks me upside the head. And now, life will go on in a different direction.
As I earned my college degree in business, I would never slander anyone publically after repeatedly stating how professional I am.
Post by: ColtsFan90 on December 10, 2018, 08:13:06 AM
I didn't see anything unprofessional about Sonja's post, though I can't say the same for the Moundhouse smear campaign. Anyway Sonja, best of luck in whatever you choose to do.
Post by: Ed1032 on December 10, 2018, 08:22:05 AM
And Colwyn, I don’t know what you expect to get out of this. It was two years ago and you already had Dennis make amends. If you need more closure, maybe do it in a DM with the lady?
Post by: mobeerlswhine on December 10, 2018, 08:33:41 AM
But I still feel, I deserved the right to know why this happen?. And why Vanity was put in that situation also.
But why in this thread? This is SO not about you. Start a thread about it. It is boorish and rude of you to try to hijack this thread when the subject is exceedingly well defined and vitally important with nothing whatsoever to do with you or any individual client for that matter.
Post by: Kevinz0071 on December 10, 2018, 08:49:51 AM
Still FUCKING Wait for Your answer Cherry Lane!!!!!. ;) >:(
With all due respect Colwyn you should be asking Vanity this or Cherry Lane. Vanity was the one you negotiated with and so she would be the one who knows what happened.
Post by: mobeerlswhine on December 10, 2018, 09:10:17 AM
So that is why I replied here, about what happen to me. I did NOT! hijack this thread in anyway shape or form, and you know it. So get off my ball sack.
Still don't get it, do you? This thread is about a real conflict between the house management and someone working as both a provider and formerly a madam. It is not about you or any client experience. The conflict is happening within this past week and is seeming still ongoing. Your alleged conflict doesn't have anything to do with Sonya and likely nothing to do with Suzette. But even if it did, this is NOT the place to seek or get answers.
It is clear that you are seeking attention. Absolutely nothing is stopping you from staring a unique thread.
Post by: Ed1032 on December 10, 2018, 09:40:26 AM
Post by: roxanneprice on December 10, 2018, 09:55:58 AM
Hey Colwyn, I don't mean to sound rude but you are definitely out of line here. The type of input that you are providing here comes across as inappropriate, and unhinged.But I still feel, I deserved the right to know why this happen?. And why Vanity was put in that situation also.
But why in this thread? This is SO not about you. Start a thread about it. It is boorish and rude of you to try to hijack this thread when the subject is exceedingly well defined and vitally important with nothing whatsoever to do with you or any individual client for that matter.
This thread was about something that happen to someone working at the love ranch. So that is why I replied here, about what happen to me. I did NOT! hijack this thread in anyway shape or form, and you know it. So get off my ball sack.
I do not know what happened when you partied at LRN, as I did not hear anything about your issue when it happened. It could have been a cashier interfering, or the lady decided that she was uncomfortable with the amount. She gave you your money back, so there's no reason for you to be upset about it two years later. Please drop it.
Post by: wrb55roscojr on December 10, 2018, 10:11:30 AM
Hey Colwyn, I don't mean to sound rude but you are definitely out of line here. The type of input that you are providing here comes across as inappropriate, and unhinged.But I still feel, I deserved the right to know why this happen?. And why Vanity was put in that situation also.
But why in this thread? This is SO not about you. Start a thread about it. It is boorish and rude of you to try to hijack this thread when the subject is exceedingly well defined and vitally important with nothing whatsoever to do with you or any individual client for that matter.
This thread was about something that happen to someone working at the love ranch. So that is why I replied here, about what happen to me. I did NOT! hijack this thread in anyway shape or form, and you know it. So get off my ball sack.
I do not know what happened when you partied at LRN, as I did not hear anything about your issue when it happened. It could have been a cashier interfering, or the lady decided that she was uncomfortable with the amount. She gave you your money back, so there's no reason for you to be upset about it two years later. Please drop it.
Am starting to think this this thread should be locked! Colwyn this was two years ago, you will never get the answer that you want.
Post by: MrTShirt on December 10, 2018, 10:25:25 AM
Party with Cherry Lane.
Party with RoxyGold.
Party with VanityAffair.
Party with RoxannePrice.
Open the door for Colwyn.
Wave to Madam Suzette.
Wish Sonja the best. She has a lot of options for the future. (Plus, I bet her husband is pretty good at making any house ADA accessible.)
MrTShirt, the 26 incher.
Post by: Cherry Lane on December 10, 2018, 10:59:31 AM
If the Ladies at The Love Ranch North are Independently Contracted and they decide there own price and who they party with. Then Why? was Vanity Affair told she could not party with me ? for that price ?.
I think I am owed a answer.
And yes Dennis did give me a answer to the question. But you need to realize the he was walking on egg shells with me. He had to be careful what he said to me. Because he had to worry about being in violation of the ADA. And my rights, so he handled it the best way he could. And I was happy with the out come.
But I still feel, I deserved the right to know why this happen?. And why Vanity was put in that situation also.
First and foremost, do not speak to me in that manner!
I can see if you had this type of behavior why she didnt party with you.
How am I supposed to know why, I dont know her or you!
I dont know the situation in detail, plus it is not my job to explain anything to you when you publicly are disrespecting me.
Post by: roxanneprice on December 10, 2018, 11:16:26 AM
https://youtu.be/V9LylmwNdM0
Post by: ste on December 10, 2018, 11:37:05 AM
Notice how the loudest voice from Mound House in the recent past has not chimed in at all.
Sonya, if you feel that you are truly gone and never to return, I think we would all value your honest appraisal of the conditions at the Hof legacy houses and your predictions for the near future. You may well be in the best position to comment.
Any reason I had in the past to stay mum about anything has been removed. But, I'll warn you, I don't have a lot of bad things to say. I learned a lot of important things there and forged many lifelong bonds. I will be honest, though.
Other ladies have left Hof houses and described unfriendly interactions with Hof and Suzette and their stories were questioned by current Hof ladies. Do you think your opinion of those ladies' negative experiences will change now that you're in the same boat?
Post by: Wildfire on December 10, 2018, 11:39:19 AM
Still the same drama filled team bunny . Now that Suzette has full control it will just get worse.
It would not surprise me if in a short time some or all the Mound House brothels will be out of business or will be sold.
Post by: MidwestCouple on December 10, 2018, 11:43:04 AM
I am sure you will respond with lies!
Unfortunately I will not be responding as I am professional, said what I needed... THE FACTS!
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We don't have much of an opinion on any of this, although can say that the post didn't seem so "ANTI-MOUNDHOUSE" until the moundhouse ladies got involved. There have been many ladies who we respected who have left mounhouse this year (Jade, Lexie, Ashlyn, ....) and we never before felt their was an issue. We even felt that this OP had more to do with the explanation why Sonja was leaving than to blame anyone in particular, except maybe management.
Above all though, what we absolutely think is bush league is the long rambling post, making accusations and posting blame, followed by the "i will not be responding" quote. It comes off as extremely weak when someone jumps into a fight, and then runs away from the havoc they created. We've respected many of the things Cherry has offered LPIN in the past, but this situation is not one of them.
Post by: ShyKyle87(again) on December 10, 2018, 12:05:24 PM
Post by: FumbleNutts on December 10, 2018, 12:29:13 PM
Roxanne, I tried to get a hold of you on various medias, but to no avail :'( I was going through a bunch of stuff, as I'm moving within a couple years, and held out something you may like? Didn't want to bring it 2,000 miles if not. Lemme know how to get a hold of you if so :)
Brother Colwyn, let it go. Most likely it was the SM or cashier that nixed it. It's not as uncommon as you may think. Knowing Vanity like I do, she would have tried to do everything she could to show you a good time. She has a very good heart.
It didn't work out for Sonja up north. Can't blame her for letting many people know and know why, expecting her to be there. I surely wish everyone the best, and much happiness :-*
Post by: ChicagoBob on December 10, 2018, 12:57:50 PM
2 weeks 'til Xmas everyone! Much sex for all's needed before that time - it's a good stress reliever :) I'm good for another 3 to 6 months, but my brother Elwood's gonna make me jealous soon again ;D
Roxanne, I tried to get a hold of you on various medias, but to no avail :'( I was going through a bunch of stuff, as I'm moving within a couple years, and held out something you may like? Didn't want to bring it 2,000 miles if not. Lemme know how to get a hold of you if so :)
Brother Colwyn, let it go. Most likely it was the SM or cashier that nixed it. It's not as uncommon as you may think. Knowing Vanity like I do, she would have tried to do everything she could to show you a good time. She has a very good heart.
It didn't work out for Sonja up north. Can't blame her for letting many people know and know why, expecting her to be there. I surely wish everyone the best, and much happiness :-*
Brother Jake, Just throw that gift for Roxanne in the back of the Dodge. I'll be hitting Sheri's right after Vegas! 8)
Post by: Rand McNally on December 10, 2018, 01:02:22 PM
Post by: Wildfire on December 10, 2018, 01:15:21 PM
Colwyn, Archie Bunker once said revenge was the best way to get even. If money is that important to Madame Suzette, consider taking yours to a house NOT managed by Suzette.
Or owned by Suzette !
Post by: Sonja on December 10, 2018, 02:04:08 PM
Post by: JimDiGriz on December 10, 2018, 04:14:30 PM
I was a client at LRV in August (for one of your packages, where I was the guy reading Darwin at the bar). Regardless of who did what at LRN, I'm wishing you the best in this new chapter of your life.
Go get 'em!
Post by: Sonja on December 10, 2018, 04:18:28 PM
Sonja:
I was a client at LRV in August (for one of your packages, where I was the guy reading Darwin at the bar). Regardless of who did what at LRN, I'm wishing you the best in this new chapter of your life.
Go get 'em!
Thanks Jim! Back at you & all of our extended brothel family. We may not always agree or get along with each other but we are all bonded by our common interests.
Post by: Rolex79 on December 10, 2018, 06:47:00 PM
Post by: CoreyInTheHouse on December 10, 2018, 07:03:50 PM
Stay classy, Madam.
Post by: Ed1032 on December 10, 2018, 08:44:09 PM
Sonja, I just want to say you are a class act. Even if, for some M. Night Shyamalan reason, Cherry is actually telling the truth and you really are a two-faced lying bitch in real life--at least on this board, you are constantly trying to disengage from an internet war and emphasizing how you want us to continue supporting the ladies at LRN.
Stay classy, Madam.
Well said Corey, I completely agree
Post by: Sonja on December 11, 2018, 05:18:23 AM
Sonja, I just want to say you are a class act. Even if, for some M. Night Shyamalan reason, Cherry is actually telling the truth and you really are a two-faced lying bitch in real life--at least on this board, you are constantly trying to disengage from an internet war and emphasizing how you want us to continue supporting the ladies at LRN.
Stay classy, Madam.
Thank you. You gave me my first smile of the day. :-*
Cherry and I have only laid eyes on each other while in the same room. We've never properly met, had a conversation, or worked together. She has no personal experience on which to base her opinion of me. She picked up on some gossip & is using that as the foundation of her perception of me. I wanted to work with her and I'm sad that was impossible. It could have been a mutually beneficial collaboration at LRN.
I'm only now getting more details about the "Pictures in the Brothel" culture at Moundhouse.
At Bunny Ranch - where I trained over 4 yrs ago, the entry is plastered to the ceiling with pics of ladies - some who are renowned for having been there & some who are still there. When I returned to LRV, the walls there were covered with new pics of Dennis "and friends" who were mostly celebrities. It was my job to promote our ladies and house so I immediately got to work on getting our ladies represented on the walls of the hallways. Dennis provided blown up pics of the ladies, and frames for me & I put them up. Not specific ladies - ALL the ladies. He also provided sexy Vegasesque art because I wanted to give LRV a vintage Vegas feel to give it more personality of its own. I hung those as well. Not only a non-issue but it was expected of me to take care of those kinds of things.
Suzette told me to keep a "low profile" initially. I understood that to mean "don't do anything without her consent". I am still trying to work out what it actually meant.
At Moundhouse - pictures on the wall are organized as very ordered pecking order placements. At LRN - there are 6 spots for pictures & those go to the top 6 bookers. When I got there, only 3 pictures were hanging in the parlor. I made a mental note to find out who else should be represented so I could order her pictures and frames. In the meantime, the parlor looked kinda bland with those empty spaces. In my initial meeting with Suzette a couple months ago - I'd asked if I could hang pictures in the house & she gave permission. I sought the advice of the cashier about what to hang and where. We decided the pics with Dennis would be welcomed as the ladies loved him and there were no pictures of him in the house. My 3rd day, I was finally moved in to my house and new room at LRN. For me, hanging pictures and putting flowers in vases is a "last touch" of moving in to a place.
It seems that those who make up the culture at Moundhouse are very attuned to the serious significance of picture placement in the houses there. This was me stepping on mine when I didn't know I was in a minefield. They are stunned I didn't just "know" and I am stunned no one bothered to warn me...And then did not allow me to correct this error. This cultural dissonance has left both sides shaking their heads at the other side as we wonder why something so simple wasn't just understood.
When it comes down to it - it was very likely bad timing because of so much turmoil and devastation over the past couple of months between when I was offered the position vs when I arrived. The reason for rescinding the offers made to me was hanging a picture but I imagine if it hadn't been that, it would have been something else just as absurd. The real reason was that this just wasn't meant to be at this time.
Post by: Mountainsquirrel on December 11, 2018, 06:22:03 AM
Secondly, to call Cherry not team bunny is the biggest load of BS. Did you know if Cherry hadn't bought the decorations for street vibrations herself with her own money that LRN would have had no decorations? Or that Cherry opens her room to teach the ladies how to use the message board? If a new girl needs some new outfits Cherry will personally open her own closet to the lady. I'm sorry but this sounds like an amazing team player. Somebody that wants the house to thrive and succeed.
Please try and deny any of it, because then you'll prove you're a manipulative liar. Or own up to it(because you, me, the staff, and all the ladies at the ranches know it's true), and explain your actions.
Post by: Chara on December 11, 2018, 07:30:48 AM
Post by: RihannaLovely on December 11, 2018, 07:59:59 AM
Being a "Madam on the Menu" is an inherent conflict of interest. Any way you look at it, ladies are in competition with each other. . .when one of those ladies has "power" over the others, problems will arise unless the madam is unusually selfless, unbiased, and fair. Sonja appears to be quite the opposite of those things---when she worked at LRV, she did something similar with the online website, prominently featuring herself at every opportunity. Noting that she's displayed these traits, can you imagine how that would be applied in every day brothel life and why other ladies would not want to experience it?
Since it is clear that the ladies do not like, appreciate, or respect Sonja---how would it be appropriate to keep her around, even if Suzette did? Why should Suzette force the ladies of LRN to work with someone they do not respect and who immediately shows signs of abusing her power over them? Would that be fair to the ladies? The ladies should come first and they always do with Suzette. Regardless of her feelings about any employee, she is always going to be looking out for the best interests of the ladies.
Regardless, I think "Madam on the Menu" is a difficult thing to do-----and unnecessary, especially in a bigger house, because there should be capable managers who are happy to just manage the brothel in the fairest way they can. Just about every cashier/manager I ever encountered in Moundhouse had a comforting, motherly quality about them. . .I can only imagine this was achieved via a process of natural selection in making good hiring and firing choices.
Post by: Ed1032 on December 11, 2018, 08:44:18 AM
With that in mind, I never met or partied with Sonja, as I imagine many on the boards have not either. We just know her from posts; She seems to care about the houses she works at and the girls she manages, which is often the most important thing and all you can really ask for. Sonja has a strong, positive presence on these boards, and there's something to be said for that. I for one was interested in visiting any house she managed.
Like others have said, even through all this Sonja has kept her remarks professional and she has not resorted to open insults and mudslinging, even though as the person who was let go, she obviously would be the most hurt by all this. Others have been pretty rough to her. I'm pretty new to the boards, but the very recent bad behavior from a few people has really brought the overall mood down here. I hope we can get past it soon.
Post by: ste on December 11, 2018, 08:55:42 AM
Since it is clear that the ladies do not like, appreciate, or respect Sonja---how would it be appropriate to keep her around, even if Suzette did? Why should Suzette force the ladies of LRN to work with someone they do not respect and who immediately shows signs of abusing her power over them? Would that be fair to the ladies? The ladies should come first and they always do with Suzette. Regardless of her feelings about any employee, she is always going to be looking out for the best interests of the ladies.
Aren't there stories of Suzette screaming at the ladies and calling them courtesans? That's in the best interest of the ladies?
Any way you look at it, ladies are in competition with each other. . .when one of those ladies has "power" over the others, problems will arise unless the madam is unusually selfless, unbiased, and fair.
If problems arise because of "power" issues why do top bookers get better rooms? Wouldn't that exacerbate the situation? Why are numbers exposed at tea parties even if ladies don't want their numbers revealed? Are forum analytics still being used?
Post by: ChicagoBob on December 11, 2018, 08:57:35 AM
Post by: Sonja on December 11, 2018, 09:02:48 AM
Can't we all just get along? :o
I'm with you. No one's best interest is served by trashing the ladies, clients, or houses.
Chara - as in real life outside a brothel, everything isn't always perfect inside the brothel. That doesn't mean brothel life is drenched in drama. Shit happens sometimes but, overall, it's a desirable environment. If it weren't there wouldn't be so many ladies vying for spots of the line-ups and ladies wouldn't stay.
I'm currently on the road so I will respond to the other nonsense when I have time and internet connection.
Post by: RihannaLovely on December 11, 2018, 09:08:58 AM
I've had terrible, terrible managers in the past. People who made every aspect of the job more difficult and were hated by everyone. But in the end it's not the employee's choice who the boss is, it's weird that some providers think they should be able to choose who their manager is. The owner or higher up hires managers. If employees can have input, that's great and they should feel very lucky to do so, but in the end the employees have to adapt to management.
Sex workers in brothels are not employees---they are independent contractors. Independent contractors do not have to do anything they don't want to do, including "adapt to management". In fact, it's been stated in this thread that independent contractors left the house in refusal to work for Sonja. Even if Suzette could have forced the ladies to work under unfair conditions, why would she? Why should she?
As I stated, you would have to be an exceedingly unbiased, fair, and respectable person to successfully work as a "Madam on the Menu". It looks like Suzette gave Sonja the opportunity to show she could be that but Sonja did not. The first thing she did upon arriving was use her position to gain an unfair advantage against the other ladies in the house---just as she did with the LRV website. Pictures are only the tip of the iceburg. Can you imagine how a Madam who has shown any proclivity towards unfair behavior could manipulate a brothel system to her advantage?
Nipping it in the bud is the only solution. I can tell you there is no way I would have been willing to work under Sonja.
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With that in mind, I never met or partied with Sonja, as I imagine many on the boards have not either. We just know her from posts; She seems to care about the houses she works at and the girls she manages, which is often the most important thing and all you can really ask for. Sonja has a strong, positive presence on these boards, and there's something to be said for that. I for one was interested in visiting any house she managed.
I disagree. She used her position as madam at LRV to implement programs that drastically reduced the ladies' cut of parties. While we went back and forth as she tried to piss on our legs and tell us it was raining, I knew then that she did not have the ladies best interest at heart. She's not a horrible person---just not a suited for a job involving being an advocate and role model for other ladies.
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Like others have said, even through all this Sonja has kept her remarks professional and she has not resorted to open insults and mudslinging, even though as the person who was let go, she obviously would be the most hurt by all this. Others have been pretty rough to her. I'm pretty new to the boards, but the very recent bad behavior from a few people has really brought the overall mood down here. I hope we can get past it soon.
The people living and working with her are the ones who know her best. . .not those of us reading her posts on a message board. Where there is smoke, there is fire.
Post by: RihannaLovely on December 11, 2018, 09:13:38 AM
Since it is clear that the ladies do not like, appreciate, or respect Sonja---how would it be appropriate to keep her around, even if Suzette did? Why should Suzette force the ladies of LRN to work with someone they do not respect and who immediately shows signs of abusing her power over them? Would that be fair to the ladies? The ladies should come first and they always do with Suzette. Regardless of her feelings about any employee, she is always going to be looking out for the best interests of the ladies.
Aren't there stories of Suzette screaming at the ladies and calling them courtesans? That's in the best interest of the ladies?Any way you look at it, ladies are in competition with each other. . .when one of those ladies has "power" over the others, problems will arise unless the madam is unusually selfless, unbiased, and fair.
If problems arise because of "power" issues why do top bookers get better rooms? Wouldn't that exacerbate the situation? Why are numbers exposed at tea parties even if ladies don't want their numbers revealed? Are forum analytics still being used?
I'm not sure what rumors you've heard about Suzette---I only know what I've seen from years of working with her. She is uniquely awesome.
The brothels use a proven method to incentivize ladies to earn to their best potential and fulfill their goals as efficiently as possible. I am not sure how that relates to an authority figure using her power to gain an unfair advantage over other ladies. A top booker with a nice room or featured placement earned that position via hard work and dedication---A "Madam on the Menu" who tramples over that in a quest for self-promotion did not.
Post by: hikingguy2013 on December 11, 2018, 09:30:13 AM
Post by: ShyKyle87(again) on December 11, 2018, 09:39:21 AM
I’m going to chime in with my two cents worth.. I am new here and I have been searching for a house to start working in. I have never met anyone from lpin I am brand new to this, but I have to say one of the biggest reasons I was looking at going to a brothel instead of just dancing and sugar baby/independent work shile in college is for safety, security, less drama. But this post has me floored. Management or previous management and ladies not agrereing with each other seems like a normal part of any job. But to come online and have it out, airing dirty laundry and some of the accusations. I am scared and worried about the safety and security of being in a brothel. All are in very isolated places and to be out that far and have worry about who you are working with or if they are crazy. Some of these posts are just crazy. The last post about food is deeply concerning to me.Hi Chara, welcome to these boards. I will say that issues over privacy and security only apply to four houses: Bunny Ranch, Love Ranch North, Sagebrush Ranch, and Kitkat Ranch. And that was because the previous owner was an outspoken public figure who occasionally outed his ladies on social media. That might change there with new ownership, but only time will tell. Most of the brothels are pretty good about keeping private matters private.
Post by: ShyKyle87(again) on December 11, 2018, 09:45:18 AM
A number of ladies who previously worked for Hof/Suzette have stated that they've seen those two mistreat ladies. Clearly you had favored status or were just lucky to not see it. If it was just one lady saying that, then yes, there might be reason to question that. But with multiple accounts of such treatment, as they say, where there's smoke, there's fire.
I'm not sure what rumors you've heard about Suzette---I only know what I've seen from years of working with her. She is uniquely awesome.
The brothels use a proven method to incentivize ladies to earn to their best potential and fulfill their goals as efficiently as possible. I am not sure how that relates to an authority figure using her power to gain an unfair advantage over other ladies. A top booker with a nice room or featured placement earned that position via hard work and dedication---A "Madam on the Menu" who tramples over that in a quest for self-promotion did not.
Post by: Wildfire on December 11, 2018, 09:49:52 AM
Suzette is one of the most amazing people I've ever met--- let's start there.
Being a "Madam on the Menu" is an inherent conflict of interest. Any way you look at it, ladies are in competition with each other. . .when one of those ladies has "power" over the others, problems will arise unless the madam is unusually selfless, unbiased, and fair. Sonja appears to be quite the opposite of those things---when she worked at LRV, she did something similar with the online website, prominently featuring herself at every opportunity. Noting that she's displayed these traits, can you imagine how that would be applied in every day brothel life and why other ladies would not want to experience it?
Since it is clear that the ladies do not like, appreciate, or respect Sonja---how would it be appropriate to keep her around, even if Suzette did? Why should Suzette force the ladies of LRN to work with someone they do not respect and who immediately shows signs of abusing her power over them? Would that be fair to the ladies? The ladies should come first and they always do with Suzette. Regardless of her feelings about any employee, she is always going to be looking out for the best interests of the ladies.
Regardless, I think "Madam on the Menu" is a difficult thing to do-----and unnecessary, especially in a bigger house, because there should be capable managers who are happy to just manage the brothel in the fairest way they can. Just about every cashier/manager I ever encountered in Moundhouse had a comforting, motherly quality about them. . .I can only imagine this was achieved via a process of natural selection in making good hiring and firing choices.
How could " The Saint " refuse on chiming in on this subject . And how long has it been since you have been in Mound House. ? Yes a few people like Suzette. I bet there is more out there that can't stand her.
Saint Rihanna you have to know Suzette looks out for just one and that is herself and for the ladies they can stay and put up with the craziness or leave she could care less. I guess you still have a supply of the" kool aid " left over from your days on team bunny .
Post by: smoothpate on December 11, 2018, 10:21:31 AM
Sonja, Sonja, Sonja, as someone who was there when the announcement you'd be going to LRN was made SEVERAL top Booker's said they would leave to another ranch. Why? Well, let's talk about how you tell every new girl to tag you in their forum posts increasing your searches. Or how you rationed food at LRV and would conduct room searches if you thought a lady was "stealing" food (mind you that is paid for in room & board). Literally serving dinner on cafeteria plates. You'd accept $80 parties, which just destroys the house value. And countless more things. I wonder why nobody would want this person around. You like to act all high and mighty to manipulate the board which now according to your Twitter you're going the indie route.
Secondly, to call Cherry not team bunny is the biggest load of BS. Did you know if Cherry hadn't bought the decorations for street vibrations herself with her own money that LRN would have had no decorations? Or that Cherry opens her room to teach the ladies how to use the message board? If a new girl needs some new outfits Cherry will personally open her own closet to the lady. I'm sorry but this sounds like an amazing team player. Somebody that wants the house to thrive and succeed.
Please try and deny any of it, because then you'll prove you're a manipulative liar. Or own up to it(because you, me, the staff, and all the ladies at the ranches know it's true), and explain your actions.
It may just be my cynical nature, but I find it funny that a member with ONLY TWO posts has such insight into the inner workings of LRV and LRN!
Makes me even more suspicious of Cherry's claims!
Post by: Mountainsquirrel on December 11, 2018, 10:50:30 AM
Post by: no-use-words on December 11, 2018, 11:16:55 AM
I don't enjoy participating on the boards but I enjoy viewing, mongers are the only ones to be anonymous? I see no reason why working ladies can't be discrete as well. I have met almost all of you in person, but I prefer an anonymous account because of how cruel this board can be towards each other. However, I saw something terrible and full of lies so I felt the need to set facts straight.
You're fine with Sonja doing terrible things at LRV but not at LRN?
Post by: Mountainsquirrel on December 11, 2018, 11:47:37 AM
I don't enjoy participating on the boards but I enjoy viewing, mongers are the only ones to be anonymous? I see no reason why working ladies can't be discrete as well. I have met almost all of you in person, but I prefer an anonymous account because of how cruel this board can be towards each other. However, I saw something terrible and full of lies so I felt the need to set facts straight.
You're fine with Sonja doing terrible things at LRV but not at LRN?
Nowhere did I say that. Perfect example why I rarely post on the board.
Post by: adrian on December 11, 2018, 12:12:01 PM
I don't enjoy participating on the boards but I enjoy viewing, mongers are the only ones to be anonymous? I see no reason why working ladies can't be discrete as well. I have met almost all of you in person, but I prefer an anonymous account because of how cruel this board can be towards each other. However, I saw something terrible and full of lies so I felt the need to set facts straight.
At least you aren’t pretending to be a monger ;)
Post by: no-use-words on December 11, 2018, 01:03:58 PM
I don't enjoy participating on the boards but I enjoy viewing, mongers are the only ones to be anonymous? I see no reason why working ladies can't be discrete as well. I have met almost all of you in person, but I prefer an anonymous account because of how cruel this board can be towards each other. However, I saw something terrible and full of lies so I felt the need to set facts straight.
You're fine with Sonja doing terrible things at LRV but not at LRN?
Nowhere did I say that. Perfect example why I rarely post on the board.
Allow me to rephrase if you think it's a loaded question.
You said several top bookers left LRN when it was announced Sonja was coming.
You point out the mistreatment the LRV ladies received from Sonja as the reason.
I'm not questioning the validity of the mistreatment you're describing.
The houses hold a lot of power because they are the only legal option. It's their way or you can leave.
You ladies have to put up with food poisoning/told to be on the forums and bar and parlor but not your room/Hof's bullshit.
It's good if you're turning on Sonja because she mistreated the LRV ladies.
My question is - if you knew the LRV ladies were being mistreated why did you not say anything?
Post by: Rand McNally on December 11, 2018, 01:59:21 PM
If Suzette didn't want a madame on the menu, the appropriate action would have been to contact Sonja prior to her move west and personally withdraw the employment offer. When real bosses must implement unpleasant decisions, they look people in the eye and tell them the facts. The business about the violating the 'picture culture' would be laughably childish if it hadn't caused Sonja so much trouble.
Post by: Sonja on December 11, 2018, 03:49:25 PM
I agree that Suzette is amazing so we can start by agreeing. I wouldn't have changed my life to work under her tutelage if I didn't value what makes her special.... that... and I wanted to help her during this especially challenging time.
The ladies that DO love and support me are understandably keeping mum here. I have suggested that ladies keep their distance from me out of self-interest right now. There is no doubt in my mind this thread is being monitored and no one from Moundhouse needs to make a post on the wrong side of the fence when her livlihood is at stake. That means the ladies posting attacks are fearless because all insults will likely get them brownie points.
I don't know what programs you're talking about that hurt the ladies. My programs incl. Sex Vacation Packages, a Laid Away program, and a Value Menu. All ultimately had to be negotiated with individual ladies so ... are you talking about something else? I never took ridiculously cheap parties but I was creative about accommodating budget parties or providing a pleasant brothel experience for tips. When I first came on, several of the ladies were being bullied by a SM to walk everything under $500. I introduced ideas about how to service those clients who didn't have that much to spend. No one was ever required to play for any set price, though. The new openness to accept budget parties increased business.
As for plastering my picture all over the BB… not my call. I never ran the website and didn’t make any important decisions about who got featured or when. All the forums follow the exact same formula for who gets featured and where. Nothing is subjective. It’s solely based on who books money. Top Booker of the Year gets top spot for a full year or as much of the next year as she is with the company. Next to her is the top booker of the month – 30 day spot. Featured ladies re ranked by their earnings all the way to about the 6th or 7th spot and then it’s random after that. Sometimes a lady who didn’t earn a spot got featured – those ladies were known as D’s girlfriends. For the record I was never one of D’s girlfriends. If I was featured it was because I earned it.
There is an area “Blogs” – where I could influence a lady getting featured. I heavily encouraged and helped ladies with their blogs. Brooklyn, Isabella, Dasha, & Jade are a handful of ladies I was able to get featured by helping them with their blogs. Y’all should check those out – they are all quite good.
As for competing with the ladies… You are right. Being a Madam on the Menu was a delicate dance. I had a couple of bad examples to draw from when I first started and took special pains to avoid direct competition with ladies. I imagine, if I were unsuccessful at balancing that, Dennis would have never brought me back after my hiatus and Suzette would not have convinced me to work for her rather than resign.
90% of my clients have been my lovers for years and have followed me regardless of where I was working. I often shared my lovers with ladies in the house and I avoided mingles. I did hit the line-ups during the day. Any courtesan knows that guys choose a “type” from the line-up. I am a mature, curvy, short-haired, blonde, with glasses and no tats. If someone chose me it was because THAT was what they wanted. If a guy came in wanting a brunette, spinner, tat girl, redhead, chocolate, thick girl, Hispanic, perky a-cups, whatever else I’m not – they pick her. I took great pains to create a very diverse line-up so we were not in competition with each other.
It’s true there were ladies who moved to another house before my arrival. The primary shit-stirrer ironically just got thrown out by Suzette. The only reason she was on the line-up at LRV was because Suzette was sick of her bull and didn’t want to deal with her. The only reason I didn’t get rid of her was that she was a Bff of one of D’s girlfriends and had “protected status”. The only reason she ended back up north is because Dennis insisted. He wanted to make sure all girls who could clear up north got a spot at one of his houses. It’s not uncommon for one girl to stir up problems in the house. A big part of management is to squash that and keep a positive happy vibe in the house.
Post by: Sonja on December 11, 2018, 03:50:35 PM
The mandate at Hof houses was to have delicious meals available daily that pleased the ladies. Lot’s of healthy options were required to be available. We also were required to fix separate delicious meals for ladies who were vegetarian, vegan, gluten free, pork free, whatever free based on her requests. Ladies were also free to have their own food stash if the item desired was too unique to her tastes.
Day time Shift Managers were also the cooks. They made enough food for a hot meal everyday for every lady to eat heartily and still have leftovers to nosh on at her leisure. Often, visiting staff (construction, maintenance, PR) were included in the list of people she cooked for. From the time I got there, because Dennis was actively running for office, he and his entourage also had to be accounted for when deciding how much to cook. The Shift Managers were amazing doing that job and rarely miscalculated. If they did come up short, they cooked some more.
It just so happened we had a girl in the house with an “eating issue”. That was manageable…until we got another lady with an all out eating disorder. It got to the point where if you weren’t in the kitchen when the SM announced the food was ready, you didn’t eat. Those two girls would wipe out the food in no time flat. Total feeding frenzy. Forget about the ladies who worked all night and didn’t get up till late. All the other ladies in the house were reasonably annoyed. Additionally – Dennis would arrive with a gang of campaign workers starving after long hard days of door knocking & no food. We ended up doing portioned meals for Dennis and entourage as well to assure THEY had food to eat. In spite of setting those portions aside, there was plenty of food in the house – enough so that our over-eaters continued to plump up.
So – when those 2 girls were in the house – no lady could serve herself immediately. This was not my decision – it was the entire management team at LRV who came up with this solution to make everyone happy. The SM created equally portioned meals for every lady in the house before anyone could take seconds, thirds, and fourths. That assured that EVERYONE got the hearty, hot, and sometimes specialized meal they deserved.
Post by: smoothpate on December 11, 2018, 06:24:42 PM
I don't enjoy participating on the boards but I enjoy viewing, mongers are the only ones to be anonymous? I see no reason why working ladies can't be discrete as well. I have met almost all of you in person, but I prefer an anonymous account because of how cruel this board can be towards each other. However, I saw something terrible and full of lies so I felt the need to set facts straight.
Everyone who believes that stand on your head!
Post by: Mountainsquirrel on December 11, 2018, 06:35:45 PM
I don't enjoy participating on the boards but I enjoy viewing, mongers are the only ones to be anonymous? I see no reason why working ladies can't be discrete as well. I have met almost all of you in person, but I prefer an anonymous account because of how cruel this board can be towards each other. However, I saw something terrible and full of lies so I felt the need to set facts straight.
Everyone who believes that stand on your head!
Do you really want me to start outing monger fetishes to prove myself? No, trust me, you don't.
Post by: roxanneprice on December 11, 2018, 09:05:49 PM
BREAKING: Moundhouse exposed, with insider info!
In all seriousness, anyone who cares about maintaining the image of LRN in particular should probably not post on this thread escalating the spicy drama any further. This thread is sitting at 8 pages now, and is getting a fair ammount of attention because of the escalation, and the "insider information" being offered. The best thing that you can do is ignore stuff like this. If you've done nothing wrong, then there's no reason to defend yourself. Actions speak louder than words, blah blah. LRN has been through enough in the past few years, and the responses in this thread appear to be a poor attempt at damage control.
Drop it, move on, and rebuild.
Post by: Sonja on December 12, 2018, 04:44:14 AM
This thread is going to be an interesting reference point for how people remember 2018 on the SIN forums. I can see the headlines now.
BREAKING: Moundhouse exposed, with insider info!
In all seriousness, anyone who cares about maintaining the image of LRN in particular should probably not post on this thread escalating the spicy drama any further. This thread is sitting at 8 pages now, and is getting a fair ammount of attention because of the escalation, and the "insider information" being offered. The best thing that you can do is ignore stuff like this. If you've done nothing wrong, then there's no reason to defend yourself. Actions speak louder than words, blah blah. LRN has been through enough in the past few years, and the responses in this thread appear to be a poor attempt at damage control.
Drop it, move on, and rebuild.
I didn’t consider the actual stories illustrating the nuts & bolts realities behind the scenes as “spicey” & any “damage” is over so “control” is a misnomer. I posted to inform & to reach out to people I’ve been interacting with for 7 years now - as any person who was just dealt a blow in life might confide in friends. I’ve gotten more clarity & peace as I get more time & distance. I’m already moving on, I already have a new direction, & I am happy to let this topic go.
Post by: FunSeeker on December 12, 2018, 10:24:35 AM
Open your own brothel (or a strip club). You are very capable person and you will do very well. You will have many loyal clients.
Post by: Wildfire on December 12, 2018, 10:27:50 AM
Sonja,
Open your own brothel (or a strip club). You are very capable person and you will do very well. You will have many loyal clients.
Not a bad idle ! But would Sonja really want all the headache that would come with being a owner.
Post by: MrTShirt on December 12, 2018, 10:28:09 AM
Sonja,
Open your own brothel (or a strip club). You are very capable person and you will do very well. You will have many loyal clients.
Well, highdrive and myself could use an expert for the ProstiDude Ranch!
Post by: jade Monroe on December 12, 2018, 11:58:03 PM
Post by: Wildfire on December 13, 2018, 04:18:00 AM
To the audience that is feeding into her poisonous lies. Sonja only allows you to see what she wants you to see. She blocks the absolutely spitefully negative things that she has done and continues to do. Sonja pretends as though she is innocent when in reality she is a self-righteous narcist. Sonja is NOT a VICTIM of anyone AT ALL. However, more than a few ladies have in fact been a VICTIM of her, her harassing lies, emails, and behavior.
That maybe so but the Sonja haters do the same they just tell their lies and their side of the story .
There is always 3 parts of the story. The view from the parties involved and than the truth .
Plus with this one she was hired by the former owner. The new owner fired her in a chicken shit way but she has that
her right to do so she is the owner.
Post by: easy on December 13, 2018, 05:32:16 AM
Is that the same Madam Suzette that ran the Wild Horse? is that maybe why she left? This inquiring mind wants to know.
NO ! Susan Austin was the madam / manager at Wild Horse and Mustang from when they opened in 2003 until around 2013 or so. Definitely not the same person as Madam Suzette.
Post by: roxanneprice on December 13, 2018, 09:36:49 AM
Posting on this thread "defending" the house that you work at makes you look bad.
Ignoring this thread while maintaining a classy image makes you look good.
It's kind of the same reason why you don't see the owner of a place arguing with people who have posted negative reviews on Google. Their response is usually an objective "Well how could we have improved your experience with us?" etc. In a public setting that everyone can read, it's beneficial to come across as a professional that wants to improve the customer experience... Presenting yourself as argumentative and aggressive while representing a company is a poor strategy. Simple.
We've all gone to social media to post in an emotional frenzy, but it is the smartest thing to do? Not at all.
Post by: Wildfire on December 13, 2018, 09:48:41 AM
I guess that some ladies aren't getting the hint...
Posting on this thread "defending" the house that you work at makes you look bad.
Ignoring this thread while maintaining a classy image makes you look good.
It's kind of the same reason why you don't see the owner of a place arguing with people who have posted negative reviews on Google. Their response is usually an objective "Well how could we have improved your experience with us?" etc. In a public setting that everyone can read, it's beneficial to come across as a professional that wants to improve the customer experience... Presenting yourself as argumentative and aggressive while representing a company is a poor strategy. Simple.
We've all gone to social media to post in an emotional frenzy, but it is the smartest thing to do? Not at all.
More advice ::) ::)
Post by: hikingguy2013 on December 13, 2018, 09:48:54 AM
Post by: Sonja on December 13, 2018, 10:03:18 AM
Sonja,
Open your own brothel (or a strip club). You are very capable person and you will do very well. You will have many loyal clients.
I don’t have millions of dollars to make that happen. It’s no secret that I would love the opportunity to use all I’ve learned to run a brothel. I’d also love to forge a path for other ladies to do the same. Who knows what the future holds? If there’s anyone out there ready to nuy a brothel & give me that shot, you can reach me at Free2JustBe@aol.com - I’ll be happy to discuss it with you.
Post by: CoreyInTheHouse on December 13, 2018, 11:03:22 AM
Post by: smoothpate on December 13, 2018, 11:08:01 AM
aol, Sonja? Would you like investors to send you their gold doubloons via pony express as well?
I see you're an email snob!
Who cares what email server you use as long as it works!
Post by: CoreyInTheHouse on December 13, 2018, 11:15:08 AM
Post by: Sonja on December 13, 2018, 12:51:38 PM
aol, Sonja? Would you like investors to send you their gold doubloons via pony express as well?
LOL - I had aspirations to be the last human left on AOL ... then my mom signed up. I have decades to go now before I can claim that record.
Post by: TheMightyPeanut on December 13, 2018, 01:16:24 PM
So while I'm sure we are missing part of the story, and I don't doubt there have been bad decisions made along the way, I just can't see Sonja as a stingy self-promoter forcing women to accept pennies for their services. Also, precious Daddy who so many people treat like a God was the one who wanted her for this position, so... obviously there was something there because he wouldn't keep someone around who didn't make money and chased away his earners.
Post by: smoothpate on December 13, 2018, 05:54:16 PM
I'm only half joking. But being serious, In all the business courses I've taken, it's recommended you use a gmail account when you want to conduct business because it "looks" more professional.
And as a bonus Google will save EVERYTHING from your email account even if you deleted it!!!
Got rid of my gmail account and stopped using Google and Chrome over a decade ago! Haven't had any problem using Hotmail!
Post by: jade Monroe on December 13, 2018, 07:06:19 PM
I guess that some ladies aren't getting the hint...
Posting on this thread "defending" the house that you work at makes you look bad.
Ignoring this thread while maintaining a classy image makes you look good.
It's kind of the same reason why you don't see the owner of a place arguing with people who have posted negative reviews on Google. Their response is usually an objective "Well how could we have improved your experience with us?" etc. In a public setting that everyone can read, it's beneficial to come across as a professional that wants to improve the customer experience... Presenting yourself as argumentative and aggressive while representing a company is a poor strategy. Simple.
We've all gone to social media to post in an emotional frenzy, but it is the smartest thing to do? Not at all.
If you re-read what I wrote I never defended literally anyone at all. I only warned the audience to be cautious of her, there is NO argument to be had. That is Fact.
I am also, being very professional and am trying to improve customer service by warning people to be very cautious of her. It would be bad customer service NOT to warn people.
XOXOXOXO
JADE ;)
Post by: Rand McNally on December 13, 2018, 08:02:01 PM
...I am also, being very professional and am trying to improve customer service by warning people to be very cautious of her. It would be bad customer service NOT to warn people.
JADE ;)
Not sure why it is necessary to warn people about someone who's left the business. But its best to err on the side of caution--Sonja could be like Frank Sinatra and make multiple cum-backs--she might end up as the ol' Blue Eyes of LPIN. I'm imagining a music video of her counting her booking slips while singing, It Was a Very Good Year.
Post by: jade Monroe on December 13, 2018, 10:25:19 PM
...I am also, being very professional and am trying to improve customer service by warning people to be very cautious of her. It would be bad customer service NOT to warn people.
JADE ;)
Not sure why it is necessary to warn people about someone who's left the business. But its best to err on the side of caution--Sonja could be like Frank Sinatra and make multiple cum-backs--she might end up as the ol' Blue Eyes of LPIN. I'm imagining a music video of her counting her booking slips while singing, It Was a Very Good Year.
Okay, you’re very right
::)
Please, note the sarcasm in my tone
But, She’s by no means a good person but defend her I’m glad you’ve fallen for her facade ;) just like many before you. However, if everyone is telling you there are an astronomical amount of problems with an individual and the only person who’s telling you there isn’t is the individual with the problems you should probably reevaluate the situation. Just putting that out there.
Have a fantastic night ;D ;D
Post by: RihannaLovely on December 13, 2018, 11:33:15 PM
...I am also, being very professional and am trying to improve customer service by warning people to be very cautious of her. It would be bad customer service NOT to warn people.
JADE ;)
Not sure why it is necessary to warn people about someone who's left the business. But its best to err on the side of caution--Sonja could be like Frank Sinatra and make multiple cum-backs--she might end up as the ol' Blue Eyes of LPIN. I'm imagining a music video of her counting her booking slips while singing, It Was a Very Good Year.
Okay, you’re very right
::)
Please, note the sarcasm in my tone
But, She’s by no means a good person but defend her I’m glad you’ve fallen for her facade ;) just like many before you. However, if everyone is telling you there are an astronomical amount of problems with an individual and the only person who’s telling you there isn’t is the individual with the problems you should probably reevaluate the situation. Just putting that out there.
Have a fantastic night ;D ;D
They won't react to this comment well but you are exactly right. The people who not only work with an individual but also LIVE with him/her are the people who know that person best.
Post by: Sonja on December 14, 2018, 03:24:44 AM
Post by: OlderPhart on December 14, 2018, 08:11:42 AM
Sonja & Rihanna & Jade.....
You are - all three of you - getting it WRONG.
The Correct Response is :
"Thank You Mistress. May I have Another?"
Sheesh
Post by: cronuswalker on December 14, 2018, 08:50:28 AM
NoNoNo
Sonja & Rihanna & Jade.....
You are - all three of you - getting it WRONG.
The Correct Response is :
"Thank You Mistress. May I have Another?"
Sheesh
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Sonja on December 14, 2018, 10:01:46 AM
NoNoNo
Sonja & Rihanna & Jade.....
You are - all three of you - getting it WRONG.
The Correct Response is :
"Thank You Mistress. May I have Another?"
Sheesh
LOL ... that might be an interesting job prospect. Note to self - Check out the BDSM community in Tampa Bay area.
Post by: MidwestCouple on December 14, 2018, 11:00:29 AM
... In all seriousness, anyone who cares about maintaining the image of LRN in particular should probably not post on this thread escalating the spicy drama any further. This thread is sitting at 8 pages now, and is getting a fair ammount of attention because of the escalation, and the "insider information" being offered. The best thing that you can do is ignore stuff like this. If you've done nothing wrong, then there's no reason to defend yourself. Actions speak louder than words, blah blah. LRN has been through enough in the past few years, and the responses in this thread appear to be a poor attempt at damage control.
Drop it, move on, and rebuild.
This may be our most annoying thread of 2018, if only because it's the first time we can remember actually AGREEING with Ms. Price.
In all honesty though, we've dealt with 5th grade girls on the playground - angry because a girl talked to the wrong boy - who had less of a mob mentality and admitted less bullying behavior than the moundhouse ladies have on this thread. The accusations, pettiness, and just down right petulance makes us think that many of the ladies there need their internet privileges taken away.... or a spanking!
We will point out that if any of the boy members of this board, would have been as rude or suggested such negative things about any past or current working lady, there would have been at least 10 replies saying "see, this is why the ladies don't post here anymore". Well, if this is the type of crap that we can expect the ladies to post - we say the forum is better off without them!
LPIN Ladies have a forum of potential customers, just chomping at the bit to get a little attention from them in hopes to pay a handsome chunk of money for a small amount of their time. Much of our draw to LPIN was the professional and sophisticated way that so many of the ladies had used this (and other) forum to build their brand and develop their business. That was two years ago, and Jade, Lexie, Ashlyn, ..... are gone - and we are left with THIS?
Post by: Jack Rackham on December 14, 2018, 11:07:15 AM
What is done is done, so maybe everyone should just let it go. It seems that Sonja already has.
Post by: Jack Rackham on December 14, 2018, 11:09:22 AM
Yes, this.... In all seriousness, anyone who cares about maintaining the image of LRN in particular should probably not post on this thread escalating the spicy drama any further. This thread is sitting at 8 pages now, and is getting a fair ammount of attention because of the escalation, and the "insider information" being offered. The best thing that you can do is ignore stuff like this. If you've done nothing wrong, then there's no reason to defend yourself. Actions speak louder than words, blah blah. LRN has been through enough in the past few years, and the responses in this thread appear to be a poor attempt at damage control.
Drop it, move on, and rebuild.
This may be our most annoying thread of 2018, if only because it's the first time we can remember actually AGREEING with Ms. Price.
In all honesty though, we've dealt with 5th grade girls on the playground - angry because a girl talked to the wrong boy - who had less of a mob mentality and admitted less bullying behavior than the moundhouse ladies have on this thread. The accusations, pettiness, and just down right petulance makes us think that many of the ladies there need their internet privileges taken away.... or a spanking!
We will point out that if any of the boy members of this board, would have been as rude or suggested such negative things about any past, present or current working lady - there would have been at least 10 replies saying "see, this is why the ladies don't post here anymore". Well, if this is the type of crap that we can expect the ladies to post - we say the forum is better off without them!
LPIN Ladies have a forum of potential customers, just chomping at the bit to get a little attention from them in hopes to pay a handsome chunk of money for a small amount of their time. Much of our draw to LPIN was the professional and sophisticated way that so many of the ladies had used this (and other) forum to build their brand and develop their business. That was two years ago, and Jade, Lexie, Ashlyn, ..... are gone - and we are left with THIS?
Post by: Wildfire on December 14, 2018, 12:15:28 PM
... In all seriousness, anyone who cares about maintaining the image of LRN in particular should probably not post on this thread escalating the spicy drama any further. This thread is sitting at 8 pages now, and is getting a fair ammount of attention because of the escalation, and the "insider information" being offered. The best thing that you can do is ignore stuff like this. If you've done nothing wrong, then there's no reason to defend yourself. Actions speak louder than words, blah blah. LRN has been through enough in the past few years, and the responses in this thread appear to be a poor attempt at damage control.
Drop it, move on, and rebuild.
This may be our most annoying thread of 2018, if only because it's the first time we can remember actually AGREEING with Ms. Price.
In all honesty though, we've dealt with 5th grade girls on the playground - angry because a girl talked to the wrong boy - who had less of a mob mentality and admitted less bullying behavior than the moundhouse ladies have on this thread. The accusations, pettiness, and just down right petulance makes us think that many of the ladies there need their internet privileges taken away.... or a spanking!
We will point out that if any of the boy members of this board, would have been as rude or suggested such negative things about any past or current working lady, there would have been at least 10 replies saying "see, this is why the ladies don't post here anymore". Well, if this is the type of crap that we can expect the ladies to post - we say the forum is better off without them!
LPIN Ladies have a forum of potential customers, just chomping at the bit to get a little attention from them in hopes to pay a handsome chunk of money for a small amount of their time. Much of our draw to LPIN was the professional and sophisticated way that so many of the ladies had used this (and other) forum to build their brand and develop their business. That was two years ago, and Jade, Lexie, Ashlyn, ..... are gone - and we are left with THIS?
No one forced you to read this thread or post about the thread.
Post by: FumbleNutts on December 14, 2018, 12:42:14 PM
Post by: roxanneprice on December 16, 2018, 02:55:17 PM
Yes, you are being very professional.I guess that some ladies aren't getting the hint...
Posting on this thread "defending" the house that you work at makes you look bad.
Ignoring this thread while maintaining a classy image makes you look good.
It's kind of the same reason why you don't see the owner of a place arguing with people who have posted negative reviews on Google. Their response is usually an objective "Well how could we have improved your experience with us?" etc. In a public setting that everyone can read, it's beneficial to come across as a professional that wants to improve the customer experience... Presenting yourself as argumentative and aggressive while representing a company is a poor strategy. Simple.
We've all gone to social media to post in an emotional frenzy, but it is the smartest thing to do? Not at all.
If you re-read what I wrote I never defended literally anyone at all. I only warned the audience to be cautious of her, there is NO argument to be had. That is Fact.
I am also, being very professional and am trying to improve customer service by warning people to be very cautious of her. It would be bad customer service NOT to warn people.
XOXOXOXO
JADE ;)
Post by: jade Monroe on December 17, 2018, 01:23:52 PM
Post by: roxanneprice on December 17, 2018, 11:44:39 PM
As professional as you are loyal ;)I appreciate your sentiment, thank you. It reveals a lot. Honestly I did not think that you would reach for the bait, but now that you're here-
As an independent contractor and sex worker it is appropriate and fair to branch out of the environment where your career first started. We're kind of like free lancers, we go where the work takes us. It is completely unfair to suggest that I am disloyal, or to even make a personal jab at me for making the decision to better my physical/mental health. One house is not better than the other. Every house has something different to teach its workers, and I encourage every lady to do what she needs to do in order to further her education in LPIN. Once your learning has gone stagnant then it may be time to branch out by experiencing a change in environment. Leaving behind a place that was once your home is not easy. Leaving behind people that you care about is not easy. We need to overcome challenges in order to grow. Nothing worth having is easy.
It's important to think for yourself, and to be self aware. Not everything that you hear will be true. Promoting blind loyalty is not a healthy concept, and independent contractors should not be shamed for needing to change their work environment when they feel that their survival is on the line. We must be mature about this... We are in the adult industry after all.
I have never met you but I do wish you a long and fruitful career in LPIN. Good luck.
Post by: MrTShirt on December 18, 2018, 08:58:16 AM
As professional as you are loyal ;)...As an independent contractor and sex worker it is appropriate and fair to branch out of the environment where your career first started. We're kind of like free lancers, we go where the work takes us. It is completely unfair to suggest that I am disloyal, or to even make a personal jab at me for making the decision to better my physical/mental health. One house is not better than the other. Every house has something different to teach its workers, and I encourage every lady to do what she needs to do in order to further her education in LPIN....
As I have said many times, every girl and every guy should visit every house. They each are different with pluses and minuses.
Look at pro athletes. They move around a lot. Contractor engineers move from job/company to job/company. Lawyers move from client(s) to client(s). Conclusion, a person that has explored the world and has found their niche is the happiest.
Post by: Jack Rackham on December 18, 2018, 01:15:37 PM
Classy.As professional as you are loyal ;)I appreciate your sentiment, thank you. It reveals a lot. Honestly I did not think that you would reach for the bait, but now that you're here-
As an independent contractor and sex worker it is appropriate and fair to branch out of the environment where your career first started. We're kind of like free lancers, we go where the work takes us. It is completely unfair to suggest that I am disloyal, or to even make a personal jab at me for making the decision to better my physical/mental health. One house is not better than the other. Every house has something different to teach its workers, and I encourage every lady to do what she needs to do in order to further her education in LPIN. Once your learning has gone stagnant then it may be time to branch out by experiencing a change in environment. Leaving behind a place that was once your home is not easy. Leaving behind people that you care about is not easy. We need to overcome challenges in order to grow. Nothing worth having is easy.
It's important to think for yourself, and to be self aware. Not everything that you hear will be true. Promoting blind loyalty is not a healthy concept, and independent contractors should not be shamed for needing to change their work environment when they feel that their survival is on the line. We must be mature about this... We are in the adult industry after all.
I have never met you but I do wish you a long and fruitful career in LPIN. Good luck.
Post by: Air Force Amy on January 03, 2019, 09:14:01 AM
Could not be further from the truth.
It would appear I am complaining about all the attention the culd de sac and Southern houses get and got...on top of the haunches of The Bunnyranch, and my list would be long.
Suffice it to say, the Bunnyranch is a smooth running machine and an extreme and unprecedented amount of attention and help was given every other house under Dennis' domain to make them as successful as the Bunnyranch at the sacrifice of the Bunnyranch. (and we STILL manage to crank out the most cash-NOT because it is easy or we get more attention, but because we just work harder and harder and harder to keep up with the ever increasing amount of women).
So shut the fuck up.
Post by: Air Force Amy on January 03, 2019, 09:47:32 AM
___
And nothing will be done to 'spite' or in spite of you. You only exist on this board "if" we come across you. You are not given a single, solitary second thought whatsoever. Please, don't flatter yourself. (understatement of the century)
two words.....one finger.
Bye, bye :'( ;D
Post by: Wildfire on January 03, 2019, 11:48:11 AM
"Her (M Suzette) focus is reasonably on the houses that bring in the most money. That's just good business practice. The extra attention to LRN and the extra support for the ladies would have worked in their favor. Now that it's public that they could use help and support - it's likely they'll get it out of spite for me - which is cool with me. However it happens as long as it happens." _ Sonja
___
And nothing will be done to 'spite' or in spite of you. You only exist on this board "if" we come across you. You are not given a single, solitary second thought whatsoever. Please, don't flatter yourself. (understatement of the century)
two words.....one finger.
Bye, bye :'( ;D
Her focus is reasonably on the houses that bring in the most money. That's just good business practice. The extra attention to LRN and the extra support for the ladies would have worked in their favor. Now that it's public that they could use help and support - it's likely they'll get it out of spite for me - which is cool with me. However it happens as long as it happens. _ Sonja
Could not be further from the truth.
It would appear I am complaining about all the attention the culd de sac and Southern houses get and got...on top of the haunches of The Bunnyranch, and my list would be long.
Suffice it to say, the Bunnyranch is a smooth running machine and an extreme and unprecedented amount of attention and help was given every other house under Dennis' domain to make them as successful as the Bunnyranch at the sacrifice of the Bunnyranch. (and we STILL manage to crank out the most cash-NOT because it is easy or we get more attention, but because we just work harder and harder and harder to keep up with the ever increasing amount of women).
So shut the fuck up.
In true team bunny style ..... tasteless
Post by: Ed1032 on January 03, 2019, 05:38:19 PM
Maybe some courtesans don’t care or need new clients. But with this business being almost entirely based on appearance, attitude and people’s comfort, I feel everyone should try to stay civil.
Personally, there’s not much chance of my visiting LRN or other ranches in the family, seeing these attitudes.
Post by: Prospector Bob on January 04, 2019, 03:56:34 AM
Wow...This thread is just super fucked up. This is an online forum, so most of us don’t meet each other in person, all we really have is our online persona and reputation. With that in mind, every post I see from Sonja is polite and respectful, versus some of the other posts on here...Not so much.
Maybe some courtesans don’t care or need new clients. But with this business being almost entirely based on appearance, attitude and people’s comfort, I feel everyone should try to stay civil.
Personally, there’s not much chance of my visiting LRN or other ranches in the family, seeing these attitudes.
I agree with you Ed1032. My Pappy used to tell me, "When in a contentious situation, put your brain in gear before you put your mouth in motion." I guess that works for folks using a key board as well. Yeah, this whole thread is fucked up. ::)
Post by: ChicagoBob on January 04, 2019, 06:32:03 AM
Post by: NewbiePrincess on January 04, 2019, 06:45:01 AM
Can't we all just get along? 8)
That’s my motto.
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Post by: Rand McNally on January 04, 2019, 07:11:26 AM
Post by: mollyblythe on January 04, 2019, 07:16:52 AM
Can't we all just get along? 8)
You said it.
Yikes!
Post by: Air Force Amy on January 04, 2019, 08:20:20 AM
Until you work with or for someone, you know nothing. You are being duped!
I have never hid any ulterior motives. I have stood the test of time. I have survived without being the darling of the message boards.
I rarely - if ever - weigh in on anything here.
The whining about who gets more attention makes me sick.
Fake personas, thieves, greed, liars and back stabbers make me even more sick than pedophiles.
Arm chair critics don't bother me.
Post by: Air Force Amy on January 04, 2019, 08:29:31 AM
...because you won't find that anywhere in "review" of that woman.
Double standards personified!
You guys can talk all the crap you want about the girls. No question.
The gals have something to say about a bad apple among them and OMG we are just AWFUL!!!
...whatever.... ::)
Post by: no-use-words on January 04, 2019, 09:51:53 AM
..... "madams" that steal bookings -in any way, form or fashion from an independent contractor deserves any and all public (albeit a very tiny public forum) backlash she consequently brought upon herself.
...because you won't find that anywhere in "review" of that woman.
Double standards personified!
You guys can talk all the crap you want about the girls. No question.
The gals have something to say about a bad apple among them and OMG we are just AWFUL!!!
...whatever.... ::)
Sonja was the LRS madam for a long time.
If you knew she was doing shady things why didn't you say anything then?
Post by: CoreyInTheHouse on January 04, 2019, 09:55:25 AM
Post by: Wildfire on January 04, 2019, 10:16:23 AM
..... "madams" that steal bookings -in any way, form or fashion from an independent contractor deserves any and all public (albeit a very tiny public forum) backlash she consequently brought upon herself.
...because you won't find that anywhere in "review" of that woman.
Double standards personified!
You guys can talk all the crap you want about the girls. No question.
The gals have something to say about a bad apple among them and OMG we are just AWFUL!!!
...whatever.... ::)
Sonja was the LRS madam for a long time.
If you knew she was doing shady things why didn't you say anything then?
Well it's pretty obvious Hof liked Sonja and everyone at his Mound House operation was extremely jealous of her.
And that includes the the madam Suzette Cole . So with the death of Hof and the business being given to Suzette she got rid of her revival . And in true team bunny style her minions they will do everything they can to trash Sonja.
Post by: Sonja on January 04, 2019, 10:37:42 AM
Amy & I have never met in person or had a conversation. Any references she's making are either delusions or gossip based. Amy has had random sporadic focus on me over the years - I had to block her on FB for harassing my followers there years ago shortly after I opened Alien. Immediately after I toured Moundhouse and accepted the position there, Amy sent me a very sweet message that she had misjudged me. Shortly after, she sent another one full of vitriol. This is her pattern and really nothing to do with me or any concerted effort from Moundhouse.
Those who have been here for awhile are familiar with her - especially if you were here for the pictures on the Bunny Board Fiasco. There's really nothing to say you don't already know.
Not important but it was entertainment for me, Amy. Loved the irony of you making a second post to tell me you haven't given me a second thought. That was kind of sweet in a twisted way. ;)
Post by: parisenvy on January 04, 2019, 10:41:27 AM
Post by: CoreyInTheHouse on January 04, 2019, 10:47:55 AM
Post by: TheMightyPeanut on January 04, 2019, 11:35:20 AM
What I keep coming back to is that Sonja did not install herself as madam on the menu or as a manager at BR. Dennis did. It doesn't make sense to speak so highly of one and so poorly of the other when they clearly had a working relationship together. Even if everything Sonja did was unethical from start to finish, Dennis was ok with it provided she brought in money. Yet he still walks on water.
Post by: mobeerlswhine on January 04, 2019, 03:20:25 PM
What I keep coming back to is that Sonja did not install herself as madam on the menu or as a manager at BR. Dennis did. It doesn't make sense to speak so highly of one and so poorly of the other when they clearly had a working relationship together. Even if everything Sonja did was unethical from start to finish, Dennis was ok with it provided she brought in money. Yet he still walks on water.
Important to point out that Sonja wasn't at BR. She was at Alien. Far different scale of business. Working Madam probably made sense at Alien. Probably not at LRN.
Post by: TheMightyPeanut on January 04, 2019, 03:53:00 PM
What I keep coming back to is that Sonja did not install herself as madam on the menu or as a manager at BR. Dennis did. It doesn't make sense to speak so highly of one and so poorly of the other when they clearly had a working relationship together. Even if everything Sonja did was unethical from start to finish, Dennis was ok with it provided she brought in money. Yet he still walks on water.
Important to point out that Sonja wasn't at BR. She was at Alien. Far different scale of business. Working Madam probably made sense at Alien. Probably not at LRN.
Yes I'm sorry, I meant LRN.
Post by: Air Force Amy on January 05, 2019, 07:29:36 AM
Post by: Ironman on January 05, 2019, 08:02:28 AM
Fake personas, thieves, greed, liars and back stabbers make me even more sick than pedophiles.
For I don't respect fake persona's back stabbers liars thrives or greedy people either. 🤔 But um respectfully Miss Amy you should have compared them to something other then pedophiles.
The only criminal element probably lower then pedophiles are possibly stone cold mass murders or maybe serial killers like the one that used to eat his victims. I would argue pedophiles are just as sick and twisted just in a different way.
From what I been told you don't want to be a know pedophile in prison.
I respect your passion Miss Amy, but next time maybe compare the fakes liars and thrives to something other than a pedophile just my opinion I'll let you all get back to your discussion now.🖖🏼
Post by: Sonja on January 05, 2019, 09:31:12 AM
Perhaps there just wasn't a whole lot of proof of her self serving ways that anyone could see from 400 miles away. And it only took less than a week within view to see it in person.
Okay , Miss Amy. I'll take your bait. What is it exactly that you personally viewed me doing in person that you take offense to? That would have to be that one time you observed me sitting in silence at a couple of Tea Parties.
Post by: ImAStoner on January 05, 2019, 11:44:19 AM
Perhaps there just wasn't a whole lot of proof of her self serving ways that anyone could see from 400 miles away. And it only took less than a week within view to see it in person.The same drama queen you are on the pink boards. #SMH
Post by: NewbiePrincess on January 05, 2019, 11:45:20 AM
What are the pink boards? Sorry if that’s an ignorant question but I’m new and would love to learn about different boards.Perhaps there just wasn't a whole lot of proof of her self serving ways that anyone could see from 400 miles away. And it only took less than a week within view to see it in person.The same drama queen you are on the pink boards. #SMH
Sorry this is so off topic.
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Post by: ImAStoner on January 05, 2019, 12:04:44 PM
Post by: NewbiePrincess on January 05, 2019, 12:08:13 PM
Pink boards are the boards for the Mound House facilities.
Got it. Ty.
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Post by: SIDEWINDER on January 05, 2019, 12:28:18 PM
I have a different take on the whole situation. I worked for a grocery store that was sold after I had worked for them for about 20 years. Overnight, everything was turned upside down. I didn't care for anything they were doing but it was their company and not mine. It bothered some to the point, they quit. Others like myself were not happy but at the same time did not want to rock the boat too much as it was counter productive for both me and the company. If you ever work for a company who changes hands through a sale or death, it's almost always never the same. Some will love it as it's like cleaning their slate and giving them a fresh start while others will hate it. It's not that one side is right or the other is wrong. The change is just the way things are. You can either go with the flow or quit but you can't keep trying to do things the way you use to with a new owner. Sometimes, leaving a job is not a negative but a new beginning. Sometimes a new owner is not a bad thing either. I guess it just depends on what side of the picket fence you're standing on.
BTW: I'm done ::)
Post by: Armond on January 05, 2019, 12:57:49 PM
Post by: Jack Rackham on January 05, 2019, 04:02:32 PM
Interesting that we don't see Elko houses with this kind of dialogueI know, right? :)
Post by: Sonja on January 06, 2019, 03:37:56 AM
Interesting that we don't see Elko houses with this kind of dialogue
There is a HUGE difference between remote rural houses with only a few ladies vs. the big urban houses with huge line-ups. At the small house I worked in, the culture was quite different and, because we had less opportunity and options, we were EXPECTED to work together. It was more (functional) family-like. A bigger house is insanely more complicated to manage - whether you are in charge or just a lady on the line-up. It's so much more diverse and so many more personalities to deal with all at once.
Living in a brothel can be intense and lonely and over-stimulating at the same time. Ladies come in from all over the country - different background stories, issues, goals, ages, dynamics, personalities... and they must live together and work kinda in competition with one another while acting like they're not competing so they can live together peacefully.
I had no idea who Dennis Hof was when I first spoke to him online. It was a thread in which he was comparing all his bells and whistles to the rustic charm I was promoting. I told him "It doesn't have to be a war between the North vs. South -- both environments bring something and most of the the guys like to change things up once in awhile. I still believe that.
Post by: Sonja on January 06, 2019, 03:42:23 AM
Well, I've stayed silent---so far. ;D
I have a different take on the whole situation. I worked for a grocery store that was sold after I had worked for them for about 20 years. Overnight, everything was turned upside down. I didn't care for anything they were doing but it was their company and not mine. It bothered some to the point, they quit. Others like myself were not happy but at the same time did not want to rock the boat too much as it was counter productive for both me and the company. If you ever work for a company who changes hands through a sale or death, it's almost always never the same. Some will love it as it's like cleaning their slate and giving them a fresh start while others will hate it. It's not that one side is right or the other is wrong. The change is just the way things are. You can either go with the flow or quit but you can't keep trying to do things the way you use to with a new owner. Sometimes, leaving a job is not a negative but a new beginning. Sometimes a new owner is not a bad thing either. I guess it just depends on what side of the picket fence you're standing on.
BTW: I'm done ::)
You're on to something there! The culture of Moundhouse is not about change. There were many there who freaked out over the smallest altered detail. And yet I was brought in to improve LRN. You can't improve anything without changing something. It was a doomed adventure before it even started.
Post by: ImAStoner on January 06, 2019, 04:39:35 AM
A rambling reply which is what I'd expect from a Trump supporter.
I am sure you will respond with lies!
Unfortunately I will not be responding as I am professional, said what I needed... THE FACTS!
But now I have a career which I need to attend too.
"HAPPY HOLIDAYS FROM ALL OF US HERE AT LOVE RANCH NORTH!"
Post by: SIDEWINDER on January 06, 2019, 07:26:18 AM
Well, I've stayed silent---so far. ;D
I have a different take on the whole situation. I worked for a grocery store that was sold after I had worked for them for about 20 years. Overnight, everything was turned upside down. I didn't care for anything they were doing but it was their company and not mine. It bothered some to the point, they quit. Others like myself were not happy but at the same time did not want to rock the boat too much as it was counter productive for both me and the company. If you ever work for a company who changes hands through a sale or death, it's almost always never the same. Some will love it as it's like cleaning their slate and giving them a fresh start while others will hate it. It's not that one side is right or the other is wrong. The change is just the way things are. You can either go with the flow or quit but you can't keep trying to do things the way you use to with a new owner. Sometimes, leaving a job is not a negative but a new beginning. Sometimes a new owner is not a bad thing either. I guess it just depends on what side of the picket fence you're standing on.
BTW: I'm done ::)
You're on to something there! The culture of Moundhouse is not about change. There were many there who freaked out over the smallest altered detail. And yet I was brought in to improve LRN. You can't improve anything without changing something. It was a doomed adventure before it even started.
Well, there's only thing that will ever change the culture of Mound House or any of the larger brothels. That is the loss of income to the point where it starts to hurts. As long as the money is coming in, they probably have the attitude of it not being broke so don't try and fix it. They probably also resent workers trying to tell them how to run "THEIR" business or making changes. At least, that's always the way it has been everywhere I worked at.
BTW: Rural brothels had to change in order to stay in business. That's why you see the rural brothels such as in Elko doing so much more and offering more bang for the buck. Not the same situation with the larger brothels.
Post by: OlderPhart on January 06, 2019, 10:38:26 AM
What would be the Ideogram for "Sixty or so Women Under Five Roofs" ?
Post by: Jmc1590 on January 06, 2019, 10:54:45 AM
Post by: ChicagoBob on January 06, 2019, 11:31:09 AM
Post by: ImAStoner on January 06, 2019, 01:09:06 PM
Amy, I get you're more a diva than Mariah Carey, but why resurrect a dead thread? Sonja's moved on. You're basicallly yelling in an empty roomAmy is a worthless troglodyte and about attractive as an IED. Stand her up in the rain and she MELTS!!!
Post by: Ed1032 on January 06, 2019, 05:56:05 PM
Amy, I get you're more a diva than Mariah Carey, but why resurrect a dead thread? Sonja's moved on. You're basicallly yelling in an empty roomAmy is a worthless troglodyte and about attractive as an IED. Stand her up in the rain and she MELTS!!!
I don’t think this is going to help at all.
Post by: JimDiGriz on January 06, 2019, 06:05:44 PM
Amy, I get you're more a diva than Mariah Carey, but why resurrect a dead thread? Sonja's moved on. You're basicallly yelling in an empty roomAmy is a worthless troglodyte and about attractive as an IED. Stand her up in the rain and she MELTS!!!
I don’t think this is going to help at all.
Also, who judges an IED (Improvised Explosive Device) by how attractive it is? I just can't picture militia members saying
"Yeah it's got a great blast radius and I love the way it maims the enemy, but the color is just so last year! For pity's sake, it's drab olive! Is it too much to ask to get a festive chartreuse?!?"
Post by: ChicagoBob on January 06, 2019, 06:18:09 PM