GFE "Specialists" that don't kiss

[Kevinz0071]

Ok I'm sorry but this pisses me off.  So many ladies offer the GFE experience but there are some that claim it's their favorite party and they are such awesome providers etc.  Let me treat you like a king etc blah blah blah.  Now there are some that don't kiss.  Now before the arguments start about the ladies can do whatever they want with whomever they want blah blah blah.  I'm not arguing that I'm just saying that it's frustrating when you pick a hottie to go see ask what her parties are, find out she does GFE, make the trip there(weather across town or across the country) to find out she doesn't kiss.  Now I've never had a GF that didn't kiss me in real life so how can these girls offer this type of party (sometimes  at higher prices than just a straight lay) and not give you the Girlfriend experience?? Has anyone else encountered this??? what were your thoughts?? for the record this is LPIN wide not at any one particular house just wondering and venting a little

[Flyfisher]

Kevin...if you fall for that sales pitch shit or a lame ass yess without feeling a vibe them shame on you. Trust your inner voice. If not, then suffer!

[flagrunner]

Absolutely Kevin

The very definition of GFE would, for 99% of the population, include kissing. Why would I pay for a non-kissing GFE experience when I can get that at home

Still, now that I'm starting to realise how this LPIN thing works, if kissing is vital to me, I'd be sure to mention it in negotiations to ensure that it's included. I'm not getting at you, just saying that you need to ask for the things you really want for. Nothing can be taken for granted. I've learnt the hard way.

[Dr. Who]

IMHO, the term "GFE" is being used to the point where it really doesn't mean anything special anymore.  Since there is no standard set of rules for a GFE in LPIN, everyone has their own definition of GFE and what activities should or should not be included.

I have my own definition of GFE and a list of must do activities to meet my requirements.  If they differ from those of the particular lady, then I would not consider her to be a GFE provider by my definition.  Oh, and Kissing is one of the activities on my list! 

[Ironman]

The term GFE in lpin is a crock of shit. Its code for I am going to charge you more money.  Some ladies won't kiss clients for various reasons some will only do it with selected clients if the right person is in front of them at the moment and they are in the right mood.

That is fine your the one selling the services. Charge what you  want do certain things with client A but not B or C.

Its cool.  But most clients booking the so called GFE party will expect to be able to kiss you.

So rather then coming up with your own creative definition of GFE and not allowing certain activities that most clients will assume is part of the so called GFE party.

Just be strait up yes I will kiss or no I don't yes I allow daty or something not really GFE but more of a speciality party like a trip to Greece.  Just be straight up if you want kissing yes I will do it but that is in my priemum package it will cost you a little more than just standard sex.  Or no sorry I don't do that with my clients.  At this point you two will either agree on something understanding of the rules of the moment or contract talks will end and you go your separate ways. Freeing you both up to find another dance partner.

[Rickwild1]

my first party ever had no kissing... it was just an ok party. 

every party since had kissing and were about a million times better than the first one.

I wont do a party without kissing ever again... its just so lame... its cold... no intimacy...

I want the real deal GFE. I want it to feel like a GF, intimate and passionate. without kissing it just feels like a sleazy fuck to me.

[Kevinz0071]

Great Imput so far

I ask in my 2nd or 3rd message to a lady that way none of us wastes anyones time

And no Kissing is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge deal breaker

[QTo]

Ok I'm sorry but this pisses me off.  So many ladies offer the GFE experience but there are some that claim it's their favorite party and they are such awesome providers etc.  Let me treat you like a king etc blah blah blah.  Now there are some that don't kiss.  Now before the arguments start about the ladies can do whatever they want with whomever they want blah blah blah.  I'm not arguing that I'm just saying that it's frustrating when you pick a hottie to go see ask what her parties are, find out she does GFE, make the trip there(weather across town or across the country) to find out she doesn't kiss.  Now I've never had a GF that didn't kiss me in real life so how can these girls offer this type of party (sometimes  at higher prices than just a straight lay) and not give you the Girlfriend experience?? Has anyone else encountered this??? what were your thoughts?? for the record this is LPIN wide not at any one particular house just wondering and venting a little

If it's a deal-breaker for you, ask the question directly prior to travel.

[Kevinz0071]

Always do and I am very specific in my pm messages

[Michael]

Since the power of what's in the wallet is in the customer's possession, with plenty of ladies in that same house or other houses happy enough to have my business,  when it comes to the no kiss deal,  I'm like Billy Joel,  I'm movin' out.

[pitasandwichpimp]

A bareback blow job (and probably bareback sex) is far less risky than deep French kissing.


Who would want to kiss a hooker after she just had how many cocks, vaginas, anuses, other people's tongues, etc. In her mouth?

Who really kisses a real life girlfriend anyway? 

The cool IDea of a girlfriend is you don't have to kiss. Think back to Eddie Murphy in raw:  lick the nipples once, smack the tits and start fucking.

[Sonja]

I agree Kevin - GFE should be the complete package.  Some ladies cut & paste from other courtesan's menus and ads to get started without having a clear idea of what the party description really means.  Same for some girls who offer bondage and fetish parties when they have no experience or understanding (or even attraction to) what they are supposedly offering.

[Rickwild1]

A bareback blow job (and probably bareback sex) is far less risky than deep French kissing.


Who would want to kiss a hooker after she just had how many cocks, vaginas, anuses, other people's tongues, etc. In her mouth?

Who really kisses a real life girlfriend anyway? 

The cool IDea of a girlfriend is you don't have to kiss. Think back to Eddie Murphy in raw:  lick the nipples once, smack the tits and start fucking.

Haha.

C'mon man. It's not like the girls out in the real world are just all innocent. Half of them are big ole sluts anyway. Not like there's just a bunch of virgins runnin around out there. And they're usually not very honest about it either. I feel safer kissin a hooker that's getting tested regularly than some half drunk ho I met in a bar.

Only difference I see between hookers and civilian girls is hookers are smart enough to charge for it.

[Jack Rackham]

Why do we continue to use this term anyway? When we do, we're feeding into the whole "my definition may vary from someone else's bullshit." There's a very simple way to avoid the ambiguity. Just stop using the stupid term! Just say, I want to fuck, caress do some kissing with you on your body including on your mouth for X time. Is this something you would enjoy doing and how much would you charge? The ladies have been asked to do some pretty weird things and just simple lovemaking is not weird to ask for. A lot of ladies appreciate it when you are direct with them cause they want you to have a good time or there may be some activities that they don't like doing and would like to be told upfront.

JR

[Jack Rackham]

Why do we continue to use this term anyway? When we do, we're feeding into the whole "my definition may vary from someone else's bullshit." There's a very simple way to avoid the ambiguity. Just stop using the stupid term! Just say, I want to fuck, caress do some kissing with you on your body including on your mouth for X time. Is this something you would enjoy doing and how much would you charge? The ladies have been asked to do some pretty weird things and just simple lovemaking is not weird to ask for. A lot of ladies appreciate it when you are direct with them cause they want you to have a good time or there may be some activities that they don't like doing and would like to be told upfront.

JR

Maybe I meant to say "making out" instead of lovemaking (before I get jumped on for that).