First (last?) Trip To Nevada Brothel

[Quazar]

OK..... when a lady, a hostess, or a manager (especially at Sheri's or the Moonlite Bunnyranch) asks a question like "Have you ever been here before?".....  JMO highly suggest either dodge this type of question or answer the question by stretching the truth.  Answering this question by saying a plain "no" a good chance newbies can be taken advantage.

Next - PRICES

Couple Parties - not sure about pricing for couple parties when comparing to pricing for a guy.  Read your final quotes with both ladies were $4,000 for an hour.  Let me ask was either lady attempting to negotiate with you and did either lady appear wanting to party with you? 

The only negotiation was they both offered a quicky for $1000, yes they both wanted to party or appeared that way. I had previously sent Terra a few txts and she seemed excited to meet us when we arrived, as apposed to Vause who was just thrown into the mix after the original negotiation failed but was still very pleasant.

[Rolex79]

[COH]

OK..... when a lady, a hostess, or a manager (especially at Sheri's or the Moonlite Bunnyranch) asks a question like "Have you ever been here before?".....  JMO highly suggest either dodge this type of question or answer the question by stretching the truth.  Answering this question by saying a plain "no" a good chance newbies can be taken advantage.

Next - PRICES

Couple Parties - not sure about pricing for couple parties when comparing to pricing for a guy.  Read your final quotes with both ladies were $4,000 for an hour.  Let me ask was either lady attempting to negotiate with you and did either lady appear wanting to party with you? 

The only negotiation was they both offered a quicky for $1000, yes they both wanted to party or appeared that way. I had previously sent Terra a few txts and she seemed excited to meet us when we arrived, as apposed to Vause who was just thrown into the mix after the original negotiation failed but was still very pleasant.

NEGOTIATIONS


http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=26091.45


Maybe a helpful link which are examples of past negotiations.  In particular take a look at example #6 which happened at Sheri's.

[niceguy eddie]

The monger and manager exchange after a failed negotiation is nothing new to Sheris. The manager use to take you out to the parlor where the lineups take place, then it recently moved to the room which use to be for the dinner room on the tour or dessert, lol. I wouldn't not go to Sheris completely just be aware of where you go if negotiations fail.

Just be aware of where you go if the negotiations fail?

Are there Negotiation Police who escort you there and hold you there? 

I understand that may be a tactic that the brothel uses , but it is one to which I don't just say no, but fuck no.

The "failed room".  Might just be me but I'm more concerned about what got me there.  If it were to happen, I'll just treat it as a regroup/calm down room. 

What is this, Kindergarten with a time out room or area?

Look, I am not trying to be belligerent or insulting to you or any of the other posters.  I'm just amazed that so few guys regard this as something that is overbearing, aggravating and insulting.  I don't go to a brothel to be asked or told to go to a holding pen.

I like the old system of letting the guy go back into the parlor and find another lady without the brothel being overbearing and risking driving off clients.

[VioletVause]

Hello again gentlemen (and ladies),
Many of you seem to be very upset about the use of hospitality rooms. Sorry to hear that, however it's often helpful to look at things from a more positive persective. Our hostesses like to make sure you had a pleasant experience, though you did not come to an agreement. It is not an attack on you. Then, after checking in with you, you have the OPTION to speak with another lady. You can always ask to go back to the bar, nobody is forcing you to stay anywhere against your will. It is not a detention, simply a "Hey, how'd that go? Let's see if we can do something else to make sure you have a great time."
Also, a friendly reminder, you are not entitled to anything. We are independent contactors, despite whatever doubt there may be about that. We run businesses and have the right to do so however we please. I am happy to see that Quazar found me pleasant despite our inability to come to an agreement, I do my best to make sure all my clients do. Though if I encountered a client with the same kind of attitude some of you are displaying, I would have no hesitation as I walk you back out my door.
Of course I say that in the most courteous way. You see, just because I am for hire does not mean I accept rudeness. If you don't like the way something is done, that's okay. Everyone has a right to their opinion. Also understand that there is often a reason why things are done a certain way in this industry and by those working in it.
Now, I hope that the next time any of you are in this situation you may attempt to approach it from a less defensive position 

[RihannaLovely]

GREAT, insightful, intelligent posts from Violet and Morrigan----these ladies are really representing Sheri's well.  They said it better than I ever could and they sound like a pleasure to work with.

Some things to note:

1. It sounds like the original poster was requesting a couples party. Generally speaking, most/many ladies consider this a specialty/premium party due to various factors including satisfying two clients instead of one. . .and the dynamic that often occurs when a lady is watching her husband with another woman.

2. Lying to the lady or playing any kind of "game" will typically result in a higher price. . .not a lower one. I have flat out refused to party with clients (at any rate) who lied to me in initial meeting as the lies made me uneasy about their intentions. Ladies working in this business become very attune to when someone is playing a game or not being genuine and it is not likely to win you any favor with the lady. 

[niceguy eddie]

NEGOTIATIONS


http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=26091.45


Maybe a helpful link which are examples of past negotiations.  In particular take a look at example #6 which happened at Sheri's.

# 6 states: "6) LONG AND DIFFICULT NEGOTIATIONS -- Potential Client makes an offer.  Lady quotes an initial price.  Discussion about the price last around 10 minutes.  Lady lowers her price.  Discussion about the price last around 5 minutes.  Lady lowers her price.  Discussion about the price last around 5 minutes.  Lady lowers her price.  The potential client senses a deal for a party will happen eventually.  Discussion about the price last about 5 minutes.  Lady lowers her price.  Discussion about the price last around 5 minutes.  Lady lowers her price.  Discussion about the price last around 15 minutes.  Potential Client makes a little higher offer.  Lady accepts potential client's offer.  Successful negotiation lasted around 45 minutes.  Heard 7 different price quotes."


How the hell do you negotiate for 45 minutes?  I spent less time than that negotiating the price of my last 4 cars. 

Even from what you described above, I can't imagine spending 10 minutes discussing a price with a lady from her opening price high price that is way more than you want to pay, to a lower price that is still way more than you want to pay.   I am not a cheap client, but after about 1-4 minutes at most it is done.  We either come to an agreement on price or we don't.  I can't imagine negotiating for 45 minutes and then having any desire to have sex after that.

[niceguy eddie]

First, I respect the right of any lady to ask for whatever she wants.  I suspect that I may have paid higher prices than some people on this board.

Hello again gentlemen (and ladies),
Many of you seem to be very upset about the use of hospitality rooms. Sorry to hear that, however it's often helpful to look at things from a more positive persective.

Hospitality room?  Really. 

Is there a free all you can eat buffet or sushi bar there with free drinks?

If not, the name hospitality room is not accurate.

Are you familiar with George Orwell's classic tome 1984?

In it the ruling government's slogan is:  "War is peace/Freedom is slavery/Ignorance is strength.”

I am not going to review and explain the nuances of the book, but the point is simply calling something a certain name or giving it a certain label doesn't make it accurate.

Let's look at how some other posters have referred to the room and the experience of winding up there.

you are exactly right, putting somebody in a holding cell and on top of that having to deal with a manager? think about it how arrogant!

The "failed room".  Might just be me but I'm more concerned about what got me there.  If it were to happen, I'll just treat it as a regroup/calm down room. 

But why fathom to having to speak to the manager after a non agreement... having the manager confer with you and suggesting another lady that could
work with your budget is hinting at desperation like unfree the customer to do as he pleases, ex: go back to parlor talk on your own will if you want or not
with another lady, etc... but it feels unpleasant and unprofessional when a staff manager has to do the dirty work to try and accommodate you, no disrespect to the ladies by having determined their worth prior and quoting you their rate, you can choose to opt in or out, without interference from
a manager. it also devalues the house.

The bottom line is that I am an adult coming to a brothel to pay for sex.  I am not a cheap person or a lowballer.  I know how much I can and will pay.  I prefer to handle it like an adult on my own.  If I can't reach an arrangement with a lady that I am interested in, I will either find another lady who I am interested in and see if we can find an arrangement with her, or leave.  I will not abide or cooperate with the house or madam or manager being called in and being put in a room.  That's like the car dealership's tactic of taking the keys of your car to evaluate its trade-in value and making it harder for you to leave when you are negotiating the price of a new car.

I am sure you have set up this system as a way of reducing the number of dollars that leave the house and increase your bottom line.  That is certainly your right.  I am just explaining why some people find it objectionable along with providing specific examples.

[Rolex79]

in regards to that room no argument will make me change my mind, however well intention some ladies
are about explaining this dynamic. it's not being rude to the ladies, it's how this type of model is run.

[hungermonger]

Don't know the reasoning behind the room but it make sense as a third option- with the other two being talk with another lady or leave.  Think the obvious preferred is to have you talk to another lady, least favored being you just leave, and the little talk room is a medium to answer any concerns you might have and give a nudge to see if you are interested in partying with another lady.  Just think the original purpose of going there is to party and it is an unique situation/set up in this country that can be overwhelming for some.  So a little small talk after not reaching an argument is a good thing-in a way it shows they care.

As a business, it make total sense in my mind. Want to make everyone leave as happy as possible even if things don't workout. Maybe after some time the person reconsiders because they see an effort by the house.

[ColtsFan90]

The bottom line is that I am an adult coming to a brothel to pay for sex.  I am not a cheap person or a lowballer.  I know how much I can and will pay.  I prefer to handle it like an adult on my own.  If I can't reach an arrangement with a lady that I am interested in, I will either find another lady who I am interested in and see if we can find an arrangement with her, or leave.  I will not abide or cooperate with the house or madam or manager being called in and being put in a room.  That's like the car dealership's tactic of taking the keys of your car to evaluate its trade-in value and making it harder for you to leave when you are negotiating the price of a new car.

I am sure you have set up this system as a way of reducing the number of dollars that leave the house and increase your bottom line.  That is certainly your right.  I am just explaining why some people find it objectionable along with providing specific examples.

100% accurate here.  This hospitality room thing is just a way to give the house an advantage with regards to a customer.  I don't understand why anyone would be willing to put up with that.


So we've got terrible customer service in the form of hospitality rooms and 45 minute negotiations, and significantly higher prices than the nearby competition.  What's the appeal of Sheri's again?  Another poster once said that the best advice for mongers with regards to Sheri's is to go somewhere else, and this topic seems to provide support for that claim.

[Rolex79]

The bottom line is that I am an adult coming to a brothel to pay for sex.  I am not a cheap person or a lowballer.  I know how much I can and will pay.  I prefer to handle it like an adult on my own.  If I can't reach an arrangement with a lady that I am interested in, I will either find another lady who I am interested in and see if we can find an arrangement with her, or leave.  I will not abide or cooperate with the house or madam or manager being called in and being put in a room.  That's like the car dealership's tactic of taking the keys of your car to evaluate its trade-in value and making it harder for you to leave when you are negotiating the price of a new car.

I am sure you have set up this system as a way of reducing the number of dollars that leave the house and increase your bottom line.  That is certainly your right.  I am just explaining why some people find it objectionable along with providing specific examples.

100% accurate here.  This hospitality room thing is just a way to give the house an advantage with regards to a customer.  I don't understand why anyone would be willing to put up with that.


So we've got terrible customer service in the form of hospitality rooms and 45 minute negotiations, and significantly higher prices than the nearby competition.  What's the appeal of Sheri's again?  Another poster once said that the best advice for mongers with regards to Sheri's is to go somewhere else, and this topic seems to provide support for that claim.

or maybe it's just that Sheri's Ranch is overpriced and/or overrated.

[sunseeker]

... To go into the VIP rooms in top strip clubs is around $800, not including drinks, so to expect intercourse for less than that at a luxury brothel would be a personal oversight.
...

Which strip clubs are this?
$500-600 for an hour is more like it.

[Rolex79]

... To go into the VIP rooms in top strip clubs is around $800, not including drinks, so to expect intercourse for less than that at a luxury brothel would be a personal oversight.
...

Which strip clubs are this?
$500-600 for an hour is more like it.

Vegas is a form of tourist trap for nightlife entertainment you can save yourself alot of hassle and unwanted stress by avoiding gouge joints, my cousin on the 2 instances of his travels in vegas stayed in the close vicinity of the hotel he gambled a little bit on the 5$ black jack tables and capped it at a loss of 100$ he didn't make me learn anything new when he told me that if out of pure luck you beat the dealer only once, you will come out on the losing end the next 10 times in a row lol he would never have approached the 100$-200$ tables and i can see why.

[Quazar]

Vegas is a form of tourist trap for nightlife entertainment you can save yourself alot of hassle and unwanted stress by avoiding gouge joints, my cousin on the 2 instances of his travels in vegas stayed in the close vicinity of the hotel he gambled a little bit on the 5$ black jack tables and capped it at a loss of 100$ he didn't make me learn anything new when he told me that if out of pure luck you beat the dealer only once, you will come out on the losing end the next 10 times in a row lol he would never have approached the 100$-200$ tables and i can see why.

In all honesty took that $1000 I had planned on spending in the brothel to a euro roulette table threw it down on red, won, let it ride walked out with 4k in five minutes, paid for my trip completely, and can make another next month with it. Will definitely not be going to Sheri's, will check out Chicken though and a few more up north.