What's your guess when the majority of LPIN ranches reopen?

[Ironman]

You are asking the wrong question.  The question should be how would they reopen ?  The services offered there don't lend to social distancing. How many houses would reopen given how they would have to operate would be another good question and the liability they would be risking if someone gets the virus and dies. This is a lawsuit based world after all .  It would be all risk with potentially low reward.

Don't over think it The brothel can just have the clients sign a release of some type keeping the brothel in the clear. The girls will be taking a much bigger risk than the clients will be  If people are going to be that concerned about catching Covid at the brothel Don't go to one. Stay the F home! If you are afraid people don't go simple.

The girls are the ones talking the biggest risk.  They are the ones that have to get naked with some random stranger.

[mikejt]

You are asking the wrong question.  The question should be how would they reopen ?  The services offered there don't lend to social distancing. How many houses would reopen given how they would have to operate would be another good question and the liability they would be risking if someone gets the virus and dies. This is a lawsuit based world after all .  It would be all risk with potentially low reward.

Don't over think it The brothel can just have the clients sign a release of some type keeping the brothel in the clear. The girls will be taking a much bigger risk than the clients will be  If people are going to be that concerned about catching Covid at the brothel Don't go to one. Stay the F home! If you are afraid people don't go simple.

The girls are the ones talking the biggest risk.  They are the ones that have to get naked with some random stranger.

You bring up some very good points. I was just looking at it from a house point of view. With conventions being off in Vegas and Reno . Visitors to Nevada are down. The number of customers that a house would get would also be down. The cost of attempting to make both ladies and clients feel safe would be too high for anyone to profit. I know there are several ladies who have said they would not return til they feel safe from this virus and also the fact that you can be asymptomatic and still be contagious is dangerous. I don't think they will reopen until a vaccine is out there and the virus is under control.

[COH]

You are asking the wrong question.  The question should be how would they reopen ?  The services offered there don't lend to social distancing. How many houses would reopen given how they would have to operate would be another good question and the liability they would be risking if someone gets the virus and dies. This is a lawsuit based world after all .  It would be all risk with potentially low reward.

Don't over think it The brothel can just have the clients sign a release of some type keeping the brothel in the clear. The girls will be taking a much bigger risk than the clients will be  If people are going to be that concerned about catching Covid at the brothel Don't go to one. Stay the F home! If you are afraid people don't go simple.

The girls are the ones talking the biggest risk.  They are the ones that have to get naked with some random stranger.

You bring up some very good points. I was just looking at it from a house point of view. With conventions being off in Vegas and Reno . Visitors to Nevada are down. The number of customers that a house would get would also be down. The cost of attempting to make both ladies and clients feel safe would be too high for anyone to profit. I know there are several ladies who have said they would not return til they feel safe from this virus and also the fact that you can be asymptomatic and still be contagious is dangerous. I don't think they will reopen until a vaccine is out there and the virus is under control.

"The cost of attempting to make both ladies and clients feel safe would be too high for anyone to profit."
--mikejt




Really?

What happens when # of ladies and # of clients don't feel they're at risk from Covid-19?  In this situation why can this work between # of ladies and # of clients?  And why can a brothel be profitable?

What I have noticed on SIN, a few posters have a grasp what's going on with Covid-19.  For example, thank you wb69.  While other posters have continued or turned into being the opposite of positive.

[COH]

You are asking the wrong question.  The question should be how would they reopen ?  The services offered there don't lend to social distancing. How many houses would reopen given how they would have to operate would be another good question and the liability they would be risking if someone gets the virus and dies. This is a lawsuit based world after all .  It would be all risk with potentially low reward.

Don't over think it The brothel can just have the clients sign a release of some type keeping the brothel in the clear. The girls will be taking a much bigger risk than the clients will be  If people are going to be that concerned about catching Covid at the brothel Don't go to one. Stay the F home! If you are afraid people don't go simple.

The girls are the ones talking the biggest risk.  They are the ones that have to get naked with some random stranger.

Not necessarily "the girls are the ones taking the biggest risk".  What happens when # of ladies believe they're not at risk?  Take this a step further..... # of ladies believe any member in their household is not at risk?  So Ironman, do you communicate with every lady working in Nevada brothels?  Ever notice quite # of ladies want to return soon, very soon, working in a brothel?   Why is your reasoning incorrect?

[Ironman]

You are asking the wrong question.  The question should be how would they reopen ?  The services offered there don't lend to social distancing. How many houses would reopen given how they would have to operate would be another good question and the liability they would be risking if someone gets the virus and dies. This is a lawsuit based world after all .  It would be all risk with potentially low reward.

Don't over think it The brothel can just have the clients sign a release of some type keeping the brothel in the clear. The girls will be taking a much bigger risk than the clients will be  If people are going to be that concerned about catching Covid at the brothel Don't go to one. Stay the F home! If you are afraid people don't go simple.

The girls are the ones talking the biggest risk.  They are the ones that have to get naked with some random stranger.

Not necessarily "the girls are the ones taking the biggest risk".  What happens when # of ladies believe they're not at risk?  Take this a step further..... # of ladies believe any member in their household is not at risk?  So Ironman, do you communicate with every lady working in Nevada brothels?  Ever notice quite # of ladies want to return soon, very soon, working in a brothel?   Why is your reasoning incorrect?

COH shut the fuck up! Stop twisting my words around.

I never said the girls were not going to return to work at a brothel stop acting like F tard! We already know some of them already have. Those ladies currently providing outdates with MR as the go between are real breathing humans.

The girls will  have had recent Covid tests before reporting for work. But that doesn't mean there client has had one.

If you think the vast majority of the would be brothel clients are going to get a test just so they can then pay 1K or more for sex you would be mistaken.

So yes COH the girls are taking the bigger risk. They have a test that comes back negative. They report to work.

But that doesn't mean they won't get a client who has it and doesn't even know it.

So yes COH the girls will be taking the greatest risk. If you can't understand my point you are not real bright.

I never anywhere in that post said the girls wouldn't work. I told Mike not to over think it. I then pointed out the risk is greater to the girls then the clients.  If you can't understand that then maybe you need to go back to Kindergarten.🙄

Stop quoting me and trying to twist my words. To push your agenda.

I never said the ladies wouldn't return or that they didn't want to. You are just trying to start an argument

I have only really only communicated with one in the last couple months, and as of last time we comunicated she was planning on returning. So do yourself a favor COH shut the fuck up! Stop quoting people out of context, and trying to twist what I and others are saying to push your agenda.

The brothels will open when they open, and yes in the early days of the reopening the girls will be taking the bigger risk. Its not my fault you can't see that COH.  That doesn't mean the ladies won't return. Some might wait. Others might have gotten tired of waiting for the brothels to reopen, and moved on. But there will still be enough ladies that will be willing to work. Knowing full well there will be some risk. But life is a gamble. The idea is to try and stay in the game for as long and as best you can.

https://youtu.be/KTQJy-scAU8

[billwh]

 "But life is a gamble. The idea is to try and stay in the game for as long and as best you can."

I like that! A worthy motto to live by.

[Ironman]

"But life is a gamble. The idea is to try and stay in the game for as long and as best you can."

I like that! A worthy mo Yuhtto to live by.

I can't really take credit for it.  Basically I just took a line from that video I put in my last post, and changed it a little bit to try and make my point. I think the actual line in the song is God made life a gamble and we're still in the game....

So I used that line for inspiration and basically put my own spin on it.  Anyway glad you.like it. Maybe its simplifying things a little bit, but its basically true.👍🏻

[COH]

You are asking the wrong question.  The question should be how would they reopen ?  The services offered there don't lend to social distancing. How many houses would reopen given how they would have to operate would be another good question and the liability they would be risking if someone gets the virus and dies. This is a lawsuit based world after all .  It would be all risk with potentially low reward.

Don't over think it The brothel can just have the clients sign a release of some type keeping the brothel in the clear. The girls will be taking a much bigger risk than the clients will be  If people are going to be that concerned about catching Covid at the brothel Don't go to one. Stay the F home! If you are afraid people don't go simple.

The girls are the ones talking the biggest risk.  They are the ones that have to get naked with some random stranger.

Not necessarily "the girls are the ones taking the biggest risk".  What happens when # of ladies believe they're not at risk?  Take this a step further..... # of ladies believe any member in their household is not at risk?  So Ironman, do you communicate with every lady working in Nevada brothels?  Ever notice quite # of ladies want to return soon, very soon, working in a brothel?   Why is your reasoning incorrect?

COH shut the fuck up! Stop twisting my words around.

I never said the girls were not going to return to work at a brothel stop acting like F tard! We already know some of them already have. Those ladies currently providing outdates with MR as the go between are real breathing humans.

The girls will  have had recent Covid tests before reporting for work. But that doesn't mean there client has had one.

If you think the vast majority of the would be brothel clients are going to get a test just so they can then pay 1K or more for sex you would be mistaken.

So yes COH the girls are taking the bigger risk. They have a test that comes back negative. They report to work.

But that doesn't mean they won't get a client who has it and doesn't even know it.

So yes COH the girls will be taking the greatest risk. If you can't understand my point you are not real bright.

I never anywhere in that post said the girls wouldn't work. I told Mike not to over think it. I then pointed out the risk is greater to the girls then the clients.  If you can't understand that then maybe you need to go back to Kindergarten.🙄

Stop quoting me and trying to twist my words. To push your agenda.

I never said the ladies wouldn't return or that they didn't want to. You are just trying to start an argument

I have only really only communicated with one in the last couple months, and as of last time we comunicated she was planning on returning. So do yourself a favor COH shut the fuck up! Stop quoting people out of context, and trying to twist what I and others are saying to push your agenda.

The brothels will open when they open, and yes in the early days of the reopening the girls will be taking the bigger risk. Its not my fault you can't see that COH.  That doesn't mean the ladies won't return. Some might wait. Others might have gotten tired of waiting for the brothels to reopen, and moved on. But there will still be enough ladies that will be willing to work. Knowing full well there will be some risk. But life is a gamble. The idea is to try and stay in the game for as long and as best you can.

https://youtu.be/KTQJy-scAU8

"the girls are the ones taking the biggest risk"
--Ironman




Ironman since you're a know-it-all  :) will ask you a few questions:




Describe different people who are probably at risk from dying from Covid-19?

Describe different people who are probably NOT at risk from dying from Covid-19?

YOUR OPINION, in the United States what is the REAL mortality rate from Covid-19?  What I mean by REAL, people who TRULY die from Covid-19.

Why could the brothels have different policies regarding Covid-19?

What is the type of Covid-19 test used?

When do people get the results?

How accurate are the results?

When did you hear or read ONLY ladies will be required testing for Covid-19?  Why is it possible clients are required testing for Covid-19?  Why is it possible neither ladies or clients are required testing for Covid-19?

Ironman why could you be SPECULATING?

8)








"I have only really communicated with one in the last couple months, and as of last time we communicated she was planning on returning."
--Ironman

[bones]

Face the facts none of us knows for sure when of if they will reopen at this point in time.

Keep up the hope and good thought for the ladies, staff workers, and owners.

[Ironman]

You are asking the wrong question.  The question should be how would they reopen ?  The services offered there don't lend to social distancing. How many houses would reopen given how they would have to operate would be another good question and the liability they would be risking if someone gets the virus and dies. This is a lawsuit based world after all .  It would be all risk with potentially low reward.

Don't over think it The brothel can just have the clients sign a release of some type keeping the brothel in the clear. The girls will be taking a much bigger risk than the clients will be  If people are going to be that concerned about catching Covid at the brothel Don't go to one. Stay the F home! If you are afraid people don't go simple.

The girls are the ones talking the biggest risk.  They are the ones that have to get naked with some random stranger.

Not necessarily "the girls are the ones taking the biggest risk".  What happens when # of ladies believe they're not at risk?  Take this a step further..... # of ladies believe any member in their household is not at risk?  So Ironman, do you communicate with every lady working in Nevada brothels?  Ever notice quite # of ladies want to return soon, very soon, working in a brothel?   Why is your reasoning incorrect?

COH shut the fuck up! Stop twisting my words around.

I never said the girls were not going to return to work at a brothel stop acting like F tard! We already know some of them already have. Those ladies currently providing outdates with MR as the go between are real breathing humans.

The girls will  have had recent Covid tests before reporting for work. But that doesn't mean there client has had one.

If you think the vast majority of the would be brothel clients are going to get a test just so they can then pay 1K or more for sex you would be mistaken.

So yes COH the girls are taking the bigger risk. They have a test that comes back negative. They report to work.

But that doesn't mean they won't get a client who has it and doesn't even know it.

So yes COH the girls will be taking the greatest risk. If you can't understand my point you are not real bright.

I never anywhere in that post said the girls wouldn't work. I told Mike not to over think it. I then pointed out the risk is greater to the girls then the clients.  If you can't understand that then maybe you need to go back to Kindergarten.🙄

Stop quoting me and trying to twist my words. To push your agenda.

I never said the ladies wouldn't return or that they didn't want to. You are just trying to start an argument

I have only really only communicated with one in the last couple months, and as of last time we comunicated she was planning on returning. So do yourself a favor COH shut the fuck up! Stop quoting people out of context, and trying to twist what I and others are saying to push your agenda.

The brothels will open when they open, and yes in the early days of the reopening the girls will be taking the bigger risk. Its not my fault you can't see that COH.  That doesn't mean the ladies won't return. Some might wait. Others might have gotten tired of waiting for the brothels to reopen, and moved on. But there will still be enough ladies that will be willing to work. Knowing full well there will be some risk. But life is a gamble. The idea is to try and stay in the game for as long and as best you can.

https://youtu.be/KTQJy-scAU8

"the girls are the ones taking the biggest risk"
--Ironman




Ironman since you're a know-it-all  :) will ask you a few questions:




Describe different people who are probably at risk from dying from Covid-19?

Describe different people who are probably NOT at risk from dying from Covid-19?

YOUR OPINION, in the United States what is the REAL mortality rate from Covid-19?  What I mean by REAL, people who TRULY die from Covid-19.

Why could the brothels have different policies regarding Covid-19?

What is the type of Covid-19 test used?

When do people get the results?

How accurate are the results?

When did you hear or read ONLY ladies will be required testing for Covid-19?  Why is it possible clients are required testing for Covid-19?  Why is it possible neither ladies or clients are required testing for Covid-19?

Ironman why could you be SPECULATING?

8)








"I have only really communicated with one in the last couple months, and as of last time we communicated she was planning on returning."
--Ironman

COH you are boring😴😴😴 As usual you are trying to twist what I am saying around. Obviously you want to get another topic locked.

See this is why you have been price walked COH. Its not what you want to pay, or the activity you request its that you are boring!😴😴😴

I never claimed to know everything. that is you just acting like an idiot Trying to Start an argument.

You are right  its possible neither the client or the lady will have  had a recent covid test.

However the brothel might ask the lady to submit to one before she starts her tour as part of their normal weekly medical check. But you are technically right the brothel may not require it. But if they think it will help convince the political powers that be it will help get the brothels reopen you can bet they will want the ladies to take one.

The vast majority of would be clients won't want to be providing documents to the brothel just so they can then pay for sex.

So OK COH fine technically you are right neither side may have a covid test. But I can see where the brothel may want the girls to have one as part of their weekly medical check. To show the powers that be their girls are safe as a condition of getting reopened. But requiring the client show proof of a recent test will only hurt the brothels profits.  So yes I am speculating, but it's speculation based in logic.

Technically the girls already take the bigger risk. They go through their weekly medical testing. The client doesn't do all that before going to the brothel.

So I will stand by my claim the risk is greater to the girls. If for no other reason they will have no clue when the last time the client went to a doctor for any reason let alone a covid test.

As for me having contact with at least one lady that has toured at a brothel in the 7 or 8 months big deal. That means nothing. I still communicate with my Retired ATF and she hasn't worked in a brothel since The summer of 2013.

I keep in contact with selected people. What they currently do for a living is not my concern. I just hope they have some income coming in because I care about them as people. I consider them friends. I care about people I consider friends.

Don't read too much into me keeping in contact with at least one current working girl. At least as of February she was currently still an active LPIN girl.

Finally again COH sorry but you are boring😴😴😴

There is no need for you to pick apart every single little word of someone's post. Then try argue about it.  Find a hobby COH!

Maybe that old persons hobby Knitting?  Worked out Ok for Selvester Stalone's character in Demolition Man. Just be careful where you leave your knitting needles.🤣🤣

Maybe you can get a vegetable Garden going.🤣🤣

There  has got to be something you can do other than picking apart other people's post on here, and then try start arguments with them about it. Find a new hobby COH!😐😐

[COH]

Ok, Ironman  :) you want to discuss price walks..... let's discuss.  Based upon your posts your negotiation method is rather very simple, maybe an example.... here's money for you, party now!  (You may NOT ask for expectation of time)  Am I correct?  Almost like you're at the mercy of a lady and you're afraid experiencing a failed negotiation.  Whereas, in the past when I negotiate with a lady for the first time..... I asked for an expectation of party time which was usually 60 minutes.  Why?.... I prefer at least 60 minute parties instead of a quickie party or an abbreviated party of 60 minutes, rates are simplified, and by seeing a lady's reaction.... how quickly is an agreement or not an agreement.  When a lady doesn't want to agree to a 60 minute party  ;) very possible a failed negotiation is for the best.  When you don't ask for expectation of time.... you could encounter a quickie party or abbreviated party of 60 minutes or you're taking a higher risk with a party not at your quality expectations.  Of course if that's all the time you want than that works for you.  Although Ironman, wonder why all the one and done parties?  If I recall correctly, you mentioned one of your past parties with a specific lady was considered a quickie party?

You're aware the Mustang is my favorite brothel.  FYI, the last time I experienced a failed negotiation at the Mustang was in 2017.  Tell you a story.  One past 2017 morning, I scheduled an appointment with a Mustang lady for later in the day.  I arrived at the Mustang around lunchtime and took a seat at a table wanting to order lunch.  Around 6 Mustang ladies viewed me (several I never met)..... What happened?  One at a time the 6 Mustang ladies approached me and clearly were interested partying with me.  Being specific..... one of these 6 ladies wanted to join my appointment later for a two-girl party.  I declined her invitation.  Though I did find her attractive.  Perhaps at another time I would consider partying with her.  Time passes.... another day at the Mustang.... I see the same lady who just liked when she originally met me, showed high interest wanting to party with me.  During our conversation, I asked would you like to party.  She agreed.  Honestly, I believed a successful negotiation would happen because of a couple reasons.  In the negotiations room.... the lady said for this amount of time.... there's a house minimum of "blank".  I attempted negotiated with the lady about what she wanted.  I kept hearing..... there's a house minimum of "blank".  Because I kept hearing not the truth, I said to her..... time to end the negotiations.  The lady looked disappointed and said to me we'll have fun.  Said to the lady.... I want to end the negotiations.  Later, I heard from a few voices..... the lady was upset because and she wanted to party with you.

Ironman, will tell you, I definitely could NOT accept the lady's asking price.  Shows you never know what could occur during a negotiation.  Ironman, you may want to revise your "word" from earlier describing me with failed negotiations.

[Ironman]

Ok, Ironman  :) you want to discuss price walks..... let's discuss.  Based upon your posts your negotiation method is rather very simple, maybe an example.... here's money for you, party now!  (You may NOT ask for expectation of time)  Am I correct?  Almost like you're at the mercy of a lady and you're afraid experiencing a failed negotiation.  Whereas, in the past when I negotiate with a lady for the first time..... I asked for an expectation of party time which was usually 60 minutes.  Why?.... I prefer at least 60 minute parties instead of a quickie party or an abbreviated party of 60 minutes, rates are simplified, and by seeing a lady's reaction.... how quickly is an agreement or not an agreement.  When a lady doesn't want to agree to a 60 minute party  ;) very possible a failed negotiation is for the best.  When you don't ask for expectation of time.... you could encounter a quickie party or abbreviated party of 60 minutes or you're taking a higher risk with a party not at your quality expectations.  Of course if that's all the time you want than that works for you.  Although Ironman, wonder why all the one and done parties?  If I recall correctly, you mentioned one of your past parties with a specific lady was considered a quickie party?

You're aware the Mustang is my favorite brothel.  FYI, the last time I experienced a failed negotiation at the Mustang was in 2017.  Tell you a story.  One past 2017 morning, I scheduled an appointment with a Mustang lady for later in the day.  I arrived at the Mustang around lunchtime and took a seat at a table wanting to order lunch.  Around 6 Mustang ladies viewed me (several I never met)..... What happened?  One at a time the 6 Mustang ladies approached me and clearly were interested partying with me.  Being specific..... one of these 6 ladies wanted to join my appointment later for a two-girl party.  I declined her invitation.  Though I did find her attractive.  Perhaps at another time I would consider partying with her.  Time passes.... another day at the Mustang.... I see the same lady who just liked when she originally met me, showed high interest wanting to party with me.  During our conversation, I asked would you like to party.  She agreed.  Honestly, I believed a successful negotiation would happen because of a couple reasons.  In the negotiations room.... the lady said for this amount of time.... there's a house minimum of "blank".  I attempted negotiated with the lady about what she wanted.  I kept hearing..... there's a house minimum of "blank".  Because I kept hearing not the truth, I said to her..... time to end the negotiations.  The lady looked disappointed and said to me we'll have fun.  Said to the lady.... I want to end the negotiations.  Later, I heard from a few voices..... the lady was upset because and she wanted to party with you.

Ironman, will tell you, I definitely could NOT accept the lady's asking price.  Shows you never know what could occur during a negotiation.  Ironman, you may want to revise your "word" from earlier describing me with failed negotiations.

🙄🙄 😴😴😴 Shocking you missed my main point entirely.

No I do not want to discuss prices with you.

The here money for you line is not real dumb ass! I say that in my post for entertainment purposes I would bet the readers of my post know that.  If you truly believe I actually say that in negotiations. You really truly not that bright.

Yes I do make Take it or leave it offers. I haven't had wiggle room in my party budget when I book since 2012.

Its not about being afraid to negotiate. I just know there is zero wiggle room in my party budgets. So it is just easier t cut out the Bullshit and I make my best offer and I do have expectations I expect actual sex not just oral or a hand Job.

I also request she start the clock after I am out of the shower. It takes me longer. So either allow more time for that when. The party is booked or wait till I am on the bed.

I don't feel the need to make a lot of demands I only have what I have. So I make it simple for the lady. This is what I have right now. Either its enough to get naked and freaky on the mattress or its not.  There is no need to discuss every little detail. Not every negotiation needs to be treated like a collective baraganing agreement. No need for lawyers or agents.

You haven't been price walked in two years good for you.  I have never been price walked and unfortunately due to circumstances almost every other party I had to make it work with a different girl. Except for  very short period of about a year between the summer of  2012, and the summer of 2013.

Whatever it doesn't matter anymore.

Even if the brothels open up fully tomorrow. I won't be going, or at least I won't be booking. A

I am not working right now. So.....No brothels for me. Maybe again someday. But not anytime soon. 

So far my job search is dead on arrival.

So do me a favor COH and just shut up. I really am not in the mood for your song and dance.

Pick apart someone else's post. Please leave me alone.

I sincerely hope your favorite place opens soon. I also hope your no walk streak continues. Mine goes all the way back to 02. With at least one party every year with that exception of 2017. I don't count giving Charlotte a 20 for sitting and hanging out with me for over an hour as a party.  Up through 2019. I had to slow down in 2014, because of money being tight.   Now I unfortunately have to stop completely Until further notice because of job loss.  Maybe I will return someday maybe I won't. Time will tell.  Anyway Coh get back to me in 10 Years if your streak of not getting price walked is still intact I might be impressed maybe!😉

https://youtu.be/80yQvj1jxM8

https://youtu.be/iArsylwqoP8

[mikejt]

Any thoughts on what the governor said tonight regarding gatherings? Does this have any effect on brothel reopenings?

[cronuswalker]

From what I was hearing, absolutly none. Here is a link if anyone wants to listen to Der Fuhrer's speach its on facebook

[SToN3y]

From what I'm reading in the transcript, just a big old nothing burger... capacity limits increase in venues from 50 to 250 or 50% capacity (as long as that 50% is at or under 250), that's it. He mentioned Nevada's hospitality industry in passing, but otherwise no update regarding the brothels specifically.

I wonder, has his office even been communicating with the industry? Has his task force even entertained guidelines for the brothels to partially reopen?