Thing I'm Tired of Hearing: "I'm Priced Out Everywhere But Small Rural Houses"

[MrTShirt]

I can relate with Ruby on this one. If we could take all of the parties, we would. Some of us need to recharge ourselves with alone time, so taking all of the parties could potentially be dangerous. I am only speaking for myself here of course.

Pretty much, some of us have limits. We don't exactly enjoy having those limits, but we have to pay attention to the signals our bodies are giving us.

Exactly. You and I are very alike in that way. I would love to be the kind of working girl who could take every single party and just rake in that money -- but that's not how I am. I recharge by being alone, and social situations zap my energy. However, I do amazing one on one with people when I am fully rested in body and mind. I also give a lot of myself in a party. So if I'm taking small parties all day, or back to back long parties, etc., I will eventually get burnt out. I know this from experience. It happened in my first two years of working in LPIN. I know my mind and body better now. And that's why I have become more selective with who I see and how many people in a day I see. I have to weigh whether a $400 hour long party would be worth it for me financially and emotionally, and it would not. I think this is hard for some people to understand, especially if they are not introverted.

Tatyanna (Sheris and then MR) posted that she liked a couple of longer parties each day and then that was it for the day.  If the Sheris lineup bell ran, she would take the fine instead of doing the lineup.

Now, the question is then how do you tell an interested customer that you are done for the day - a) quote a real high price, or b) tell the customer you are just not up to another party?

[Canoe]

Most guys think we'd love to get paid for sex. And if every girl walking in looked like Jade or Ruby, sure. But look at it from their position: How many of us are old enough to be the courtesan's dad/uncle/grandpa. And a few of us are the male equivalent of Roseanne Barr's ugly sister or Rosie O'Donnell's fat cousin. What would you charge to service 280 pounds of sweat, smoke, beer, and pork rinds? The ladies are selling an intimacy that is sometimes pricey. It's valuable to them too. In any case, be respectful.  A lot of these ladies are better folk than I usually meet out in the world.

[KittiMinx]

I get burnout easy. Even if it's just a couple of parties a day whether long or short if it's day after day - I burn out hard. Especially because along with parties when I'm on the clock I'm interacting with people. That's all mental/emotional labor - and that particular kind isn't always compensated for. Sometimes you get a tip - which is great - but not always. As some people come in to hang out but don't want to party. It can get exhausting.

I'll party with pretty much anyone with a good personality, realistic expectations, decent hygiene, etc if they present reasonable budgets for what they want. And reasonable to me is reasonable to customers as well 9 times out of 10.

[COH]

I can relate with Ruby on this one. If we could take all of the parties, we would. Some of us need to recharge ourselves with alone time, so taking all of the parties could potentially be dangerous. I am only speaking for myself here of course.

Pretty much, some of us have limits. We don't exactly enjoy having those limits, but we have to pay attention to the signals our bodies are giving us.

Exactly. You and I are very alike in that way. I would love to be the kind of working girl who could take every single party and just rake in that money -- but that's not how I am. I recharge by being alone, and social situations zap my energy. However, I do amazing one on one with people when I am fully rested in body and mind. I also give a lot of myself in a party. So if I'm taking small parties all day, or back to back long parties, etc., I will eventually get burnt out. I know this from experience. It happened in my first two years of working in LPIN. I know my mind and body better now. And that's why I have become more selective with who I see and how many people in a day I see. I have to weigh whether a $400 hour long party would be worth it for me financially and emotionally, and it would not. I think this is hard for some people to understand, especially if they are not introverted.

Tatyanna (Sheris and then MR) posted that she liked a couple of longer parties each day and then that was it for the day.  If the Sheris lineup bell ran, she would take the fine instead of doing the lineup.

Now, the question is then how do you tell an interested customer that you are done for the day - a) quote a real high price, or b) tell the customer you are just not up to another party?

What is a lineup bell?  LOL
Surprisingly never heard a lineup bell at Sheri's.  Often one of the bar's entrance doors is open.  Potential clients likely would automatically enter the bar's entrance..... and once entering the bar usually would see a # of Sheri's ladies hanging around the bar.  So why ask for a lineup?  Therefore, not sure how often Tatyana heard a lineup call?

[TXmonger76]

COH: She was probably referring to a notification that goes to the ladies room at Sheris to notify of a lineup. At Sheris, outside by the pool, there is a red siren that lights up to notify of a lineup. I'm sure there are many ways to notify of a lineup that clients aren't aware of.

[Wolfman]

I don't expect ladies to do 1hr for $400. But the is a lot of room between $400/hr and $1000/hr. If I wasn't a local, I probably wouldn't mind $1000/hr if I'm only going to the ranches only a couple of times a year, but I like being able to go at least every month and that price just isn't sustainable for me.

To be fair, I don't know prices that a lot of girls so there probably are a lot more in that range I just haven't met them.

same here. i'm trying to go a couple times a month.

but, if a girl isn't in my budget i don't sweat it. never a problem finding one that is.

girls seem reasonable to me for the most part. but i try to be reasonable with them. i don't need the full hour. so i don't push for it. 40-45 minutes is fine. i don't expect all the bells and whistles. half and half is good enough. often girls have offered me more than i ask for.

i recently had a party at lrn with a lovely young lady. only asked for a half and half. only agreed to a half and half. but that party spontainiously became a gfe party once we were in the bed.

at the same time i'm a firm believer in picking the right girl. on this particular day a girl i have wanted to party with for a long time was in the lineup. but i didn't pick her. her body language said no. she didn't make eye contact. she just looked at the floor. she didn't smile. was i disappointed? no. not really. i picked the girl who was looking me right in the eyes with a huge smile on her face and had a great party.

i keep low expectations for my budget. more times than not i am pleasantly surprised.

[LuvUShortTime]

I just read this quote from an internet article on the Bunny Ranch that made my heart sink:
" So I might do a $3,500 Girlfriend Experience party for an hour, but the guy might only have $800 and might want the same party. Well, I can’t, you know, down-sell that type of party. It is a specialty."
This came from a non-pornstar girl there.  Now, the article doesn't state if there were any add-ons to that date that could inflate the cost but i'm assuming it wasn't an out-date because an hour wouldn't be enough time.  If, however, $3,500 is the base rate for a vanilla hour long GFE, I'm stunned and disheartened.

[Mikey]

I just read this quote from an internet article on the Bunny Ranch that made my heart sink:
" So I might do a $3,500 Girlfriend Experience party for an hour, but the guy might only have $800 and might want the same party. Well, I can’t, you know, down-sell that type of party. It is a specialty."
This came from a non-pornstar girl there.  Now, the article doesn't state if there were any add-ons to that date that could inflate the cost but i'm assuming it wasn't an out-date because an hour wouldn't be enough time.  If, however, $3,500 is the base rate for a vanilla hour long GFE, I'm stunned and disheartened.

Quotes like that do more harm than good for LPIN. Yeah maybe there are guys out there that want to be able to say, "hey, I screwed _____ and she was the bomb at $3500/hr, wow!" But most guys live within a more realistic budget and those kind of quotes chase them away, and this hurts the ladies that work within guys budgets.

[Dr. Who]

I just read this quote from an internet article on the Bunny Ranch that made my heart sink:
" So I might do a $3,500 Girlfriend Experience party for an hour, but the guy might only have $800 and might want the same party. Well, I can’t, you know, down-sell that type of party. It is a specialty."
This came from a non-pornstar girl there.  Now, the article doesn't state if there were any add-ons to that date that could inflate the cost but i'm assuming it wasn't an out-date because an hour wouldn't be enough time.  If, however, $3,500 is the base rate for a vanilla hour long GFE, I'm stunned and disheartened.

I wouldn't let that article keep you or other newbies from visiting the brothels, since not all ladies have that mentality in regards to GFE and GFE being a specialty party that warrants a $3500/hr rate.  Although even as a regular brothel goer for the past 17 yrs, I always cringe whenever I read an article like that.   Ladies can charge whatever they wish, but this is the kind of information that leads some guys to believe that they are being priced out of LPIN, as well as driving some newbies and others away from LPIN.

[LuvUShortTime]

Yeah, If I ask a lady for a straight 1 hr in-date GFE and she tells me that will be $3,500, I'm walking right out of that building.  Especially because, and I might be wrong because I'm a noob, but weren't most of the features of a GFE (the affection, doting, getting to know you, kissing, cuddling, foreplay, etc.) just considered being a good courtesan before someone tried to market it as the GFE?

[Wolfman]

Yeah, If I ask a lady for a straight 1 hr in-date GFE and she tells me that will be $3,500, I'm walking right out of that building.  Especially because, and I might be wrong because I'm a noob, but weren't most of the features of a GFE (the affection, doting, getting to know you, kissing, cuddling, foreplay, etc.) just considered being a good courtesan before someone tried to market it as the GFE?

it's not that simple. every girl is different and they all have their own opinions on the matter. girls charge what they want and what they feel is fair to them for services requested. i wouldn't storm out of the building over a high quote. that's just over reacting. just say sorry im not comfortable at that price. thank her for her time. then try another girl.

but like i said. in my experiences most girls have always been fair and reasonable.

if you're having a hard time getting a party you can afford i'd suggest looking at what you're doing. are you having realistic expectations for your money? are you being polite?

attitude goes a long way with the girls. so does understanding you're on a budget and being fair to them. 

[Dirk Diggler]

I just read this quote from an internet article on the Bunny Ranch that made my heart sink:
" So I might do a $3,500 Girlfriend Experience party for an hour, but the guy might only have $800 and might want the same party. Well, I can’t, you know, down-sell that type of party. It is a specialty."
This came from a non-pornstar girl there.  Now, the article doesn't state if there were any add-ons to that date that could inflate the cost but i'm assuming it wasn't an out-date because an hour wouldn't be enough time.  If, however, $3,500 is the base rate for a vanilla hour long GFE, I'm stunned and disheartened.

Quotes like that do more harm than good for LPIN. Yeah maybe there are guys out there that want to be able to say, "hey, I screwed _____ and she was the bomb at $3500/hr, wow!" But most guys live within a more realistic budget and those kind of quotes chase them away, and this hurts the ladies that work within guys budgets.

I disagree in that yes statements like that could affect her business, but I don't think it's very impactful on LPIN as a whole. Anyone that spends just a little time researching LPIN understands that ladies set their own prices. I have personally partied at the bunny ranch multiple times, I've never had problems negotiating, and you can certainly get hour long parties there for $$$ figures without much difficulty. If you're interested in particular ladies or a certain house you should give it a shot because you might be pleasantly surprised.

Dirk

[LuvUShortTime]

I didn't quote all of what she said because I didn't want to plagiarize the article.  The rest of her quote basically said that she couldn't go any lower because that was what all of the girls quote for that service and it wouldn't be fair to them to undercut them.  That is why I said I would walk.  "Walk" is the widely used term for that, correct?  I certainly didn't say "storm".

Also, this has nothing to do with what I am doing.  I was quoting an article that is one of the only sources available that gives a real $ value to a 1 hour GFE straight from one of the girls.  I have been looking for sources to give me an idea of how much money I should bring with me and this is the most definitive answer that I have found.

[LuvUShortTime]

Here's the article.  Y'all can decide yourselves what you think Harley was saying: https://qz.com/774206/how-to-negotiate-for-what-your-worth-according-to-the-women-of-the-famous-moonlite-bunny-ranch-brothel-in-nevada/

Her quote is quite a way down the article after "9. Be Prepared to Walk Away"

[MrTShirt]

Here's the article.  Y'all can decide yourselves what you think Harley was saying: https://qz.com/774206/how-to-negotiate-for-what-your-worth-according-to-the-women-of-the-famous-moonlite-bunny-ranch-brothel-in-nevada/

Her quote is quite a way down the article after "9. Be Prepared to Walk Away"

Interesting article, but no surprises.

It is in the interest of every girl to charge as much as she can.  It is in the interest of the house to encourage all the girls to charge as much as possible, and to not undercut each other.
(The house pressure for the girls to not undercut each other is the start of a "unionized girlhood".  But, I am sure the houses haven't thought that far.)

What is missed is for the houses/girls think they have it over the $300 Reno indie.  Any indie can adopt the 10 point negotiation skill. The indie girls can and some do screen their customers to make sure everyone is safe.  The indie girls can get the same STD tests, and display the results to the customers.  Mongers can develop an ATF relationship with either or both house girls and with indie girls.

But, what the indie can't do very well is create the appearance of being expensive.  Some people with money want to out spend their neighbor, whether it be a car or house or even a girl friend.  Excellence in service may be less important than for the guy to brag about the cost.  Mongers don't appear to fit in this category (except for Sidewinder, of course).

Mongers can hang out in the more expensive houses, but drive over and party at the less expensive houses, or elsewhere.
Newbies are at risk whether they go to the houses (high prices) or indies (cops and disease).

What is humorous is the thinking of the girls, the houses, or the mongers that they have a lock on the market, and that the others have no options.