Thing I'm Tired of Hearing: "I'm Priced Out Everywhere But Small Rural Houses"

[Banginit]

$4000 n hr is too rich for me... no offense Im all for capitalism, but that rate is like me sleeping w my divorce lawyer, I cant do it... just cant... im more want to be repeat n schdule this budget ...

[knitwit]

I didn't quote all of what she said because I didn't want to plagiarize the article.  The rest of her quote basically said that she couldn't go any lower because that was what all of the girls quote for that service and it wouldn't be fair to them to undercut them.  That is why I said I would walk.  "Walk" is the widely used term for that, correct?  I certainly didn't say "storm".

Also, this has nothing to do with what I am doing.  I was quoting an article that is one of the only sources available that gives a real $ value to a 1 hour GFE straight from one of the girls.  I have been looking for sources to give me an idea of how much money I should bring with me and this is the most definitive answer that I have found.

That quote from her is so weird since earlier in the article it states "For example, one of the more popular services, the Girlfriend Experience, typically fetches about $1,000 an hour at the brothel."

[knitwit]

I didn't quote all of what she said because I didn't want to plagiarize the article.  The rest of her quote basically said that she couldn't go any lower because that was what all of the girls quote for that service and it wouldn't be fair to them to undercut them.  That is why I said I would walk.  "Walk" is the widely used term for that, correct?  I certainly didn't say "storm".

Also, this has nothing to do with what I am doing.  I was quoting an article that is one of the only sources available that gives a real $ value to a 1 hour GFE straight from one of the girls.  I have been looking for sources to give me an idea of how much money I should bring with me and this is the most definitive answer that I have found.

Quoting something isn't plagiarizing, especially if provide a link to the source. You also aren't trying to pass the article off as your own writing, so no one would think you are plagiarizing it. Also, this is a forum, not some academic or professional writing, you don't really need to worry about plagiarizing here.

[SIDEWINDER]

$4000 n hr is too rich for me... no offense Im all for capitalism, but that rate is like me sleeping w my divorce lawyer, I cant do it... just cant... im more want to be repeat n schdule this budget ...

That number is SO out of line.....don't fall for it.

That sounds like an "I don't want to party with him" walk him price. 

BTW: if this is a "walk him price", wouldn't it just be getter to tell the customer up front, she does not want to party with him then to throw out a ridiculous prices that drives business away from the brothel for all the women?

[knitwit]

$4000 n hr is too rich for me... no offense Im all for capitalism, but that rate is like me sleeping w my divorce lawyer, I cant do it... just cant... im more want to be repeat n schdule this budget ...

That number is SO out of line.....don't fall for it.

That sounds like an "I don't want to party with him" walk him price. 

BTW: if this is a "walk him price", wouldn't it just be getter to tell the customer up front, she does not want to party with him then to throw out a ridiculous prices that drives business away from the brothel for all the women?

Or you get a guy who actually agrees to your "walk him" price.

[Ruby Rae]

$4000 n hr is too rich for me... no offense Im all for capitalism, but that rate is like me sleeping w my divorce lawyer, I cant do it... just cant... im more want to be repeat n schdule this budget ...

That number is SO out of line.....don't fall for it.

That sounds like an "I don't want to party with him" walk him price. 

BTW: if this is a "walk him price", wouldn't it just be getter to tell the customer up front, she does not want to party with him then to throw out a ridiculous prices that drives business away from the brothel for all the women?

To be fair, it can be incredibly hard to tell a guy you don't want to party with him. Especially when you are young and the man is much older. Harley is barely 21. I can emphasize with her completely on why she may feel more comfortable throwing out high numbers instead, because I used to be that same age, in that exact same position. I only recently started telling guys straight up that I don't think we are a good fit. In person, it can be very awkward, especially if they have an ego or are coming into this with insecurities. And if the guy is an asshole, you have to then worry about his reaction to you, the house, the other girls, etc. And then, he may even go online to bash you. But he'll bash you if you give him a high price quote, too. *shrug* We can't win sometimes. OR, maybe it's apart of her business plan and she's throwing them out for a reason, not simply because she doesn't want to party, but she wants to see if she can get that price. Some ladies want to be known as higher priced. She does her business how she wants to do HER business.

[MrTShirt]

$4000 n hr is too rich for me... no offense Im all for capitalism, but that rate is like me sleeping w my divorce lawyer, I cant do it... just cant... im more want to be repeat n schdule this budget ...

That number is SO out of line.....don't fall for it.

That sounds like an "I don't want to party with him" walk him price. 

BTW: if this is a "walk him price", wouldn't it just be getter to tell the customer up front, she does not want to party with him then to throw out a ridiculous prices that drives business away from the brothel for all the women?

To be fair, it can be incredibly hard to tell a guy you don't want to party with him. Especially when you are young and the man is much older. Harley is barely 21. I can emphasize with her completely on why she may feel more comfortable throwing out high numbers instead, because I used to be that same age, in that exact same position. I only recently started telling guys straight up that I don't think we are a good fit. In person, it can be very awkward, especially if they have an ego or are coming into this with insecurities. And if the guy is an asshole, you have to then worry about his reaction to you, the house, the other girls, etc. And then, he may even go online to bash you. But he'll bash you if you give him a high price quote, too. *shrug* We can't win sometimes. OR, maybe it's apart of her business plan and she's throwing them out for a reason, not simply because she doesn't want to party, but she wants to see if she can get that price. Some ladies want to be known as higher priced. She does her business how she wants to do HER business.

I agree that a girl can be caught between a rock and a hard place.

Giving out a high walk price is a short term solution, but a long term problem giving her and a house an "expensive" image.

A new girl might "team" with an older girl that she could suggest as a better fit than herself for a client that she isn't interested in.

Separately from the above is the guy that is insecure or hates women and intends on trashing them on the slightest pretense.  Of course, that can happen to new girls and experienced girls alike.

[hikingguy2013]

Control what you can control and not worry about anything else. Clients how much money they have is something you can control. A Lady's asking price is what she controis.
Harley says "I wouldn’t mind if it was just myself–because I want them to feel good—but other girls in the house who offer that type of party are asking for a similar price and if you sell that too low, then that hurts the other girls and it’s going to make it harder for them to make money too. ?

I never understood that quote yet I have heard Ladies in other houses say it too. My take is you can't control what other ladies think of you in the house. It is your business and if you feel comfortable at $800 then do it and not worry what other ladies think. I almost feel that is bullying a lady by other ladies. Selling a party at a lower price does not hurt other ladies either, if that was the case why do some ladies still get xxxx parties. Ladies should never tell another lady what is an appropriate price and force that on her. Let her decide offer guidance but let her decide.
I have also heard from ladies that selling parties at xxxx hurts the house and other ladies too because many clients can't afford that.
Bottom line: Sell the party at a price YOU are comfortable at and don't worry how other ladies feel you will never win there and many of these ladies you will never see again after a month and trying to win over feelings rather then run your business will not help you in your goal of being successful.If $2000 is your comfort level so be it or $800 but YOU decide that not other ladies, if you let other ladies decide your prices who is running your business the ladies in the house or you?

[SIDEWINDER]

It is a problem for working girls to turn down a customer they might not want to party with. However, they have to realize that every time they do it, they are more or less giving the brothel a bad reputation as being a high priced brothel as most customers do not buy into the independent contractor crap and just see it as being brothels with good prices or brothels with outrageous prices.

[hikingguy2013]

It is a problem for working girls to turn down a customer they might not want to party with. However, they have to realize that every time they do it, they are more or less giving the brothel a bad reputation as being a high priced brothel as most customers do not buy into the independent contractor crap and just see it as being brothels with good prices or brothels with outrageous prices.

It shouldn't be a problem if the brothel leaves it to each ladies discretion. Although at Sheris if a client gets turned down I've had it done to me personally they will find a lady in that price range you offer and it appears to me the lady they bring to you is forced into that price.Only house I know that does that and most of the time the lady brought to you is either not the type you are looking for or really not interested.

[KittiMinx]

Moral of the story is some Ladies are pressured into charging higher prices for various reasons whether personal (they have some high bills to pay and they feel pressured to doing it fast) or from someone in authority. I can speak from personal experience with someone in management frequently going through my numbers every time I'd go "off model" with a price for a party - regardless of the party, and try to guilt me about it. (Doesn't work on me, but I know it can on others.) I'm glad to be out of that environment and working someplace with more professionalism and discretion.

It's also luck of the draw. At one house perhaps the Ladies that are your specific types may be charging more than your budget allows while Ladies who may not be your type are well within your range - then it depends on you if you want to go outside your "type" or not. Perhaps it could be some encouragement to broaden your horizons if your "type" of Lady seems "overpriced" when you go places.

I quote absurdly high prices only if the guy is a real asshole and handling him is going to be a lot of work. If they go for it - joke's on them and I get compensated for the extra mental/emotional labor of putting up with them during the party. Genuinely nice, respectful guys get much more favorable rates. The same likely could be said for most Ladies. Don't want to pay the Asshole Tax - don't be an asshole.

[Ironman]

It is a problem for working girls to turn down a customer they might not want to party with. However, they have to realize that every time they do it, they are more or less giving the brothel a bad reputation as being a high priced brothel as most customers do not buy into the independent contractor crap and just see it as being brothels with good prices or brothels with outrageous prices.

It shouldn't be a problem if the brothel leaves it to each ladies discretion. Although at Sheris if a client gets turned down I've had it done to me personally they will find a lady in that price range you offer and it appears to me the lady they bring to you is forced into that price.Only house I know that does that and most of the time the lady brought to you is either not the type you are looking for or really not interested.

Yeah Sheris hates it when money walks out the door. I don't remember if it was 2014 or 2015. My buddy decided on a whom at like 2 am he wanted to go to Sheris I knew I did not have enough not once the driver got his 30 percent off the top cut >: it was debatable even if it was 50 50 I had enough. But I went along for the ride just so he would not change his mind or go drop it all at a strip club or hook up with the wrong indie.

The shift manager asked me what I was working with around 3 30 am because I did not even attempt to book. I told her 500 tops so don't worry about me that ain't going to fly here not once you factor in that you are going to give 30 percent of that to the driver. No I am good I say its because of that lame 30 percent guys like me won't try to even book here I told her.

She kinda lowered her head a little looked the other direction basically said yeah there probably are not many ladies here that  would be comfortable with an amount that low, but she would ask around if I wanted. Nope I said I only came so my buddy  would follow through.

I found out later my buddy only dropped like 600 so makes sense why the shift manager was so Gung ho on trying to help me find someone.

[COH]

I just read this quote from an internet article on the Bunny Ranch that made my heart sink:
" So I might do a $3,500 Girlfriend Experience party for an hour, but the guy might only have $800 and might want the same party. Well, I can’t, you know, down-sell that type of party. It is a specialty."
This came from a non-pornstar girl there.  Now, the article doesn't state if there were any add-ons to that date that could inflate the cost but i'm assuming it wasn't an out-date because an hour wouldn't be enough time.  If, however, $3,500 is the base rate for a vanilla hour long GFE, I'm stunned and disheartened.

Here's the article.  Y'all can decide yourselves what you think Harley was saying: https://qz.com/774206/how-to-negotiate-for-what-your-worth-according-to-the-women-of-the-famous-moonlite-bunny-ranch-brothel-in-nevada/

Her quote is quite a way down the article after "9. Be Prepared to Walk Away"

LOL
Thanks for the link.
How about comparing ladies?
So in the article Harley Lane who works at the Moonlite Bunnyranch says a common speciality party would cost $3,500/hr.  Would you rather party with?

1) Harley Lane at a cost of $3,500/hr?

OR

2) An attractive lady who works at Inez's/Mona's at a cost of $400/hr (monger's rate)?



 



So now let's say the cost to party with Harley Lane for the same party would cost $800/hr.  Would you rather party with?

1) Harley Lane at a cost of $800/hr?

OR

2) An attractive lady who works at Inez's/Mona's at a cost of $400/hr (monger's rate)?




 




So let's say now the cost to party with Harley Lane for the same party would cost $400/hr.  Would you rather party with?

1) Harley Lane at a cost of $400/hr?

OR

2) An attractive lady who works at Inez's/Mona's at a cost of $400/hr (monger's rate)?




 

[TXmonger76]

In all cases, I would rather party in Elko. When I questioned one of my buddies recently if he would like to branch out from Elko and try a different area of Nevada, his response was " Why?" " The ladies in the Elko area are just as hot, if not hotter than Tahoe, or Vegas." "Ive had better parties in Elko than Carson or Pahrump."

[LuvUShortTime]

Well, for a newbie to LPIN like me, and especially one who will need to fly in, the Reno area is a much safer bet.  There are far more choices in ladies in the city and one of the advantages of their higher rates is that they spend far more effort marketing themselves and helping you get to know a little about them before you make the trip.  Also, a great number of them actually have heads and, I know I may be in the minority, but I prefer to party with women that aren't decapitated nor fuzzy-faced