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The brothel management can only gauge the approx value of a party between a courtesan and client by time since, once alone in the room, only THEY know the level of value that was given.  Some houses, to get rates up, insist the ladies can only book a minimum amount of time.  In essence, "time" 'is the only sure way the house has to determine if a lady is under-charging (or stealing from the house). 

Which do you prefer?  Do you like to "book time" or "book an experience"? Why?

Time is the only quantifiable measurement for booking.

The so-called GFE experience has been defined as including certain activities which have no common standard of measurement. Assuming both parties even agree on the defining activities. does anyone really want to have a detailed negotiation on the length and specifics of each activity?  Asking participants to agree on what constitutes every sexual activity is like asking Joe Biden and Wayne LaPierre to agree on what constitutes 'common sense' gun laws.

I have tolerated the quirks of two now-retired women who disdained booking for time because I enjoyed their company--and being a clock watcher, knew from prior experience they would spend an appropriate amount of time. It always amused me that when our 'non-time' was up, there was invariably a knock on the door. I have always wondered what they put on their booking slips? "Keep track of how many times I scream and  knock after my third orgasm?"

  I have been trying to  figure out how to get a no knock extension 🥳  party ( no rebook or delay )as I tend to be five - ten  strokes  away from  one more spludge more often than not 🙃

For a first-time party with a specific lady, I always book time since experience is more in my dreams than a reality.

I guess it depends on what you're interested in. If I just want a quick handjob then I wouldn't want to pay the same amount as for an hour long "usual sex" party.

It needs to be a mix of both. "My price for an hour is ABC" leads to the misunderstanding that anything goes as long as it falls within an hour and "my price for sex is ABC" leads to the misunderstanding that it can take as long as it takes to get to the finish line if need be. Concise communication is key. :)

This is why I like the idea of that Australian Pricing Model that Donnas website claims they have (but no one at the house seems to acknowledge, or abide by)

$400/hr, house gets half, activities are negotiated separately, girl keeps 100% of everything beyond that initial $400. In this [hypothetical] case activities are none of the houses concern.

But to answer the question I do time since I'm not really looking for a whole lot.

I have to agree with Roxy that I like to do a combination of time and activity talk when in negotiation. If someone is lower on funds then I will lean heavier on time being a key factor. Someone once called and asked what the average a trucker spends at a brothel. I told them that there is no average at all ever because every client is different. Every persons needs/desires are different along with their budget. There are so many factors that roll through my mind when I am in negotiations.

Quote from: Mr jewels on April 29, 2023, 10:58:14 AM
  I have been trying to  figure out how to get a no knock extension 🥳  party ( no rebook or delay )as I tend to be five - ten  strokes  away from  one more spludge more often than not 🙃

That jarring ill-timed knock or buzzer was the initial reason I rebelled against "time" as a hard line measurement of a party.  There were numerous times when we would be almost there and the unwelcome interruption ruined his orgasm.

Over the years I learned from veteran courtesans that I could write "N/T" (no time) on my card.  That worked on occasion depending on the shift manager and the current mood and scrutiny from Team Bunny Ranch.  I'm sure I got by with that more often than many because the southern houses were often out of sight and out of mind. Dennis did have a system supported by $ rewards encouraging everyone who worked for him to rat each other out so I frequently got reprimanded for the liberties I took to make my parties more natural.

I have become more open to timed parties in which the client and I keep track of the time. One of my all-time favorites was a delivery man at Alien who came in the back door of the kitchen and gave me a $100 to make him cum in 5 min. (His co-worker was waiting in the truck, clueless, and he didn't want to get caught.  This was a bucket list item of his - to get "paid to cum"- so we were doing this while he was on the clock).

I go into negotiations with the party activities I desire and then book time in accordance with my budget.

I've had great short parties and long parties where I am hoping for the knock to come to get out of there........

Guess that is an advantage of knowing a lady and repeat parties....reduces guesswork.

BTW in preparation for my Spring road trip North, I have emailed several houses....No response from Donna's in Wells.. with questions I had for them.
Quick but partial response from Bella's in Wells...Took a while but received a response from the Dovetail with assurance a lady would get back with me via email...she never did.

Quote from: Sonja on April 30, 2023, 04:08:54 AM
... I learned from veteran courtesans that I could write "N/T" (no time) on my card.

At last! Mystery solved!

I've basically always just negotiated for time, I guess, but I'm pretty vanilla in my tastes. As long as I'm getting a full service party I don't generally need any particular activities that would typically be special charges. I have asked for particular things in negotiation, but things like dancing that generally the ladies are happy to do as part of a timed party. The only "special activity" parties I've done are a couple of two girl parties, and both times one of the ladies was someone I'd partied with multiple times. I took her recommendations for the second lady and she made the negotiations really easy.

I never use the word GFE.  I explain exactly what I want--kissing, mutual oral, intercourse, and I specify a period of time.  This way I cover all bases.

What Violet and Roxy Gold said. It's a blend. Within the constraints and parameters of the time period is the experience. Technically I've never asked for the GFE in negotiations, I am just projecting or embellishing that I received them because I feel that I have from each lady I was with. Actually it feels like I probably received the PSE even though I didn't ask for that either, ha ha!

I am pretty straight forward. As long as I get the Big 4 activities/positions in a party rendered with energy and enthusiasm, I am a happy camper.

Quote from: niceguy eddie on April 30, 2023, 11:58:07 PM
I never use the word GFE.  I explain exactly what I want--kissing, mutual oral, intercourse, and I specify a period of time.  This way I cover all bases.

An erudite provider who shares my disdain for that term told me she  uses it in communications as a universally understood shorthand.